dodge lawsuits? durango 2004 all read asasp!!!
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On a dash fire, what is the relevance of how he was driving?
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IndyD
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I have a problem and I wanted to know if it was similar. Is that OK dooshbag?
On a dash fire, what is the relevance of how he was driving?
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IndyD
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I have a problem and I wanted to know if it was similar. Is that OK dooshbag?
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RE: dodge lawsuits? durango 2004 all read asasp!!!
Capacitor overheating, possibly resulting in a fire huh? Man-o-man... when are they gonna learn, the less electronics the better.
Oh well, Dodge isn't alone with "vehicles that spontaneously combust," Ford had a problem with cruise control switches or something like that.
Don't park your vehicle next to your collector car or in your attached garage
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Oh well, Dodge isn't alone with "vehicles that spontaneously combust," Ford had a problem with cruise control switches or something like that.
Don't park your vehicle next to your collector car or in your attached garage
.
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RE: dodge lawsuits? durango 2004 all read asasp!!!
ORIGINAL: dodgerules86
Capacitor overheating, possibly resulting in a fire huh? Man-o-man... when are they gonna learn, the less electronics the better.
Oh well, Dodge isn't alone with "vehicles that spontaneously combust," Ford had a problem with cruise control switches or something like that.
Don't park your vehicle next to your collector car or in your attached garage.
Capacitor overheating, possibly resulting in a fire huh? Man-o-man... when are they gonna learn, the less electronics the better.
Oh well, Dodge isn't alone with "vehicles that spontaneously combust," Ford had a problem with cruise control switches or something like that.
Don't park your vehicle next to your collector car or in your attached garage
.
The recall on the '04 Durangos went out on 12/12/2003. I'd be awfully strange for someone to not know, or not have had it taken care of by now if they bought the vehicle new or have EVER had it serviced at the dealership. Dealers always (I think LOL) check for the recalls as standard practice.
BTW, nice to meet you moderator.
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Most of the 27,000 or so 2004's that had been built by 12/03 supposedly had the recall work done by the dealer prior to leaving new dealer inventory. Mine was reportedly done some 8 months before I bought it new. There is no requirement for the dealership to inform the consumer of these types of repairs. I had my Durango in the same dealership 12 different times in less than two years for different electrical problems and no one ever once mentioned it. Even after mine burned and it was obvious that the fire started in the instrument panel, no one mentioned this recall to me. I had to find out through my own research. Problem (for DCX) is that Durangos made after the recall are also catching on fire and now there have been a couple of reports of MY05 Durangos with the same type of fire. So, the relevant questions are:
1. What really caused the fires? It apparently wasn't the capacitor that was removed.
2. Has the instrument panel design been changed at all?
3. Are the Durangos being built today equipped with the same instrument panel? If so, what will keep them from catching on fire?
I think the NHTSA will get to the bottom of this, but it may take a while. How many more will burn before that?
Incidentally, these cases all have some things in common. Many of the electrical issues such as interior lights staying on, keyfobs going bad, warning lights illuminating for no reason, windshield wipers that act crazy, etc. are common threads when reviewing these cases that have been reported to the NHTSA.
1. What really caused the fires? It apparently wasn't the capacitor that was removed.
2. Has the instrument panel design been changed at all?
3. Are the Durangos being built today equipped with the same instrument panel? If so, what will keep them from catching on fire?
I think the NHTSA will get to the bottom of this, but it may take a while. How many more will burn before that?
Incidentally, these cases all have some things in common. Many of the electrical issues such as interior lights staying on, keyfobs going bad, warning lights illuminating for no reason, windshield wipers that act crazy, etc. are common threads when reviewing these cases that have been reported to the NHTSA.
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RE: dodge lawsuits? durango 2004 all read asasp!!!
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Most of the 27,000 or so 2004's that had been built by 12/03 supposedly had the recall work done by the dealer prior to leaving new dealer inventory. Mine was reportedly done some 8 months before I bought it new. There is no requirement for the dealership to inform the consumer of these types of repairs. I had my Durango in the same dealership 12 different times in less than two years for different electrical problems and no one ever once mentioned it. Even after mine burned and it was obvious that the fire started in the instrument panel, no one mentioned this recall to me. I had to find out through my own research. Problem (for DCX) is that Durangos made after the recall are also catching on fire and now there have been a couple of reports of MY05 Durangos with the same type of fire. So, the relevant questions are:
1. What really caused the fires? It apparently wasn't the capacitor that was removed.
2. Has the instrument panel design been changed at all?
3. Are the Durangos being built today equipped with the same instrument panel? If so, what will keep them from catching on fire?
I think the NHTSA will get to the bottom of this, but it may take a while. How many more will burn before that?
Incidentally, these cases all have some things in common. Many of the electrical issues such as interior lights staying on, keyfobs going bad, warning lights illuminating for no reason, windshield wipers that act crazy, etc. are common threads when reviewing these cases that have been reported to the NHTSA.
Most of the 27,000 or so 2004's that had been built by 12/03 supposedly had the recall work done by the dealer prior to leaving new dealer inventory. Mine was reportedly done some 8 months before I bought it new. There is no requirement for the dealership to inform the consumer of these types of repairs. I had my Durango in the same dealership 12 different times in less than two years for different electrical problems and no one ever once mentioned it. Even after mine burned and it was obvious that the fire started in the instrument panel, no one mentioned this recall to me. I had to find out through my own research. Problem (for DCX) is that Durangos made after the recall are also catching on fire and now there have been a couple of reports of MY05 Durangos with the same type of fire. So, the relevant questions are:
1. What really caused the fires? It apparently wasn't the capacitor that was removed.
2. Has the instrument panel design been changed at all?
3. Are the Durangos being built today equipped with the same instrument panel? If so, what will keep them from catching on fire?
I think the NHTSA will get to the bottom of this, but it may take a while. How many more will burn before that?
Incidentally, these cases all have some things in common. Many of the electrical issues such as interior lights staying on, keyfobs going bad, warning lights illuminating for no reason, windshield wipers that act crazy, etc. are common threads when reviewing these cases that have been reported to the NHTSA.
Do you have any proof years after '04 are burning up from dash problems? I haven't seen anything outside of a seat fire issue that DC is looking into.
Also, you could have at anytime requested the dealer run your VIN against the recall list. As an owner, I always ask for the check but my dealer does it by default anyways so my request is a double check that they do right in front of me. If your dealer doesn't do it ever, they are not very good. Get a new dealer. To take the D to the same dealer 12 times for an electrical issue?! Proof they are not very good. Wouldn't reason say to take it elsewhere?
IndyD
RE: dodge lawsuits? durango 2004 all read asasp!!!
Burnt,
As your D was under warranty, I assume they will replace your durango with a new one if the fire was so intensive that it burnt out your whole interior? At this point, I would not want a Burnt Durango to have its interior replaced and returned to me.
Part of the scary thing of buying a redesigned vehicle! I am glad I kept my 1st generation D. I rather deal with ball joint issues than a dash catching fire before my eyes. I never liked the 2nd generation instrument panel anyways!
As your D was under warranty, I assume they will replace your durango with a new one if the fire was so intensive that it burnt out your whole interior? At this point, I would not want a Burnt Durango to have its interior replaced and returned to me.
Part of the scary thing of buying a redesigned vehicle! I am glad I kept my 1st generation D. I rather deal with ball joint issues than a dash catching fire before my eyes. I never liked the 2nd generation instrument panel anyways!
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I've done so much digging on this issue, I can't remember where I read it, but I have read a couple reports of MY05 Durangos with this same fire. There have also been numerous reports of fires in MY04 Durangos built after the VIN range for the original recall. I have learned that DCX and the supplier of the IP are doing tests to determine where the fire really starts on these IP's, but they have never stopped putting them in Durangos. I agree that the dealership isn't any good. Just to clarify, the 12 trips to the dealer where for several different electrical issues, some of which were repeat problems. Biggest problems were keyfobs that looked like the battery contact had burned off the little circuit board inside (I think 4 or 5 times), but I had issues with just dying going down the road, airbag and ABS lights that would come on for no reason, radio went bad, A/C controls bad, you name it.
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Rebuilding the truck is not an option. Insurance says a total loss. You would think that DCX would offer a new vehicle, wouldn't you? (Although I honestly don't ever see myself owning another DCX vehicle.) Best DCX has offered so far is a buyback that amounts to a little over half of what I paid new just two years ago. They have a "usage fee" that amounts to 42 cents/mile. This would be more than if I had leased the thing new. They sent an "imparital investigator" to look at my truck, but I don't see any evidence that anyone looked very long at anything. Nothing has been touched inside the truck. Of course, Ray Charles could see what happened. Since my vehicle burned six weeks ago, DCX has never offered to get me something else to drive (rental or loaner) even though I've asked several times, the selling dealership has never even returned my calls, no one at the dealership, DCX customer care, or DCX special investigations has ever once asked if anyone was hurt, only inquired as to if the vehicle was driveable. Unbelievable. As I said when this whole ordeal began, I will be much more likely to remember how they resolve the problem than I will be to remember what caused the problem. So far, DCX is failing miserably in the customer service department.
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RE: dodge lawsuits? durango 2004 all read asasp!!!
Basically they are giving you the cold shoulder on this becasue if they didn't it would be an admission that they (their product) was at fault (faulty) you won't get anywhere with them heck I'm surprised they offered a buyback, but I guess they want to get rid of the evidence or at least that buyback came with the stipulation that you have to shut your mouth about this.
I would say let them be as lousy as they want you will get the last laugh in court. Just make sure you get a good lawyer for your case since they will probably have 5...
I would say let them be as lousy as they want you will get the last laugh in court. Just make sure you get a good lawyer for your case since they will probably have 5...