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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Ok, I have a Plymouth Neon 2000 2.0L 16 valve SOHC MANUAL.
Can I put 16" Tires?
Right now I have 14" tires. What kind of mileage should I be getting with these 14". Will I get more mileage if I put on 15" or 16" on. If so what's the ratio?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Ok, I have a Plymouth Neon 2000 2.0L 16 valve SOHC MANUAL.
Can I put 16" Tires?
Right now I have 14" tires. What kind of mileage should I be getting with these 14". Will I get more mileage if I put on 15" or 16" on. If so what's the ratio?
Are you referring to gas mileage or how many miles you can drive without replacing the tire?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Sorry, gas mileage
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Larger tires usually give less mileage per gallon. It ends up being more mass for your car to spin. Also makes braking worse.

But all in all, mileage depends on your driving habits.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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So, what size tires do the neon originally come with?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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2000

4-dr NeonP185/65 R14
4-dr Neon (option)P185/60 R15
4-dr Neon ES/LXP185/60 R15
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Larger tires usually give less mileage per gallon. It ends up being more mass for your car to spin. Also makes braking worse.
Thats not always true though depending on the weight of the tires and rims your going to have. For example, stock I have 16x6 wheels with 195-50-16 tires. This combination weighs 38lb per wheel/tire for a total weight of 152lb. Now, I just purchased 17x7 wheels with 205-40-17 tires and the wheel/tire combination will only weigh 39lb, or an additional 4lb to the total rotational mass of the car (which is pretty insignificant). Plus, if you purchasesd something like Rota 15" Tracklites or some other brand of lightweight wheels your overall mass would decrease...giving less rotational mass and theoretically better gas mileage. Not to mention the stock steelies that your riding on arent exactly "light" and probably weigh the same as my 16" R/T wheels...

As far as braking goes, while heavier tires/rims does mean you have more mass to slow down, you will have a wider/larger footprint that will help in the braking process, which could cancel out any negative affect the heavier wheels would have on the overall baking of the car.

Just some things to consider...
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Larger tires usually give less mileage per gallon. It ends up being more mass for your car to spin. Also makes braking worse.
Thats not always true though depending on the weight of the tires and rims your going to have. For example, stock I have 16x6 wheels with 195-50-16 tires. This combination weighs 38lb per wheel/tire for a total weight of 152lb. Now, I just purchased 17x7 wheels with 205-40-17 tires and the wheel/tire combination will only weigh 39lb, or an additional 4lb to the total rotational mass of the car (which is pretty insignificant). Plus, if you purchasesd something like Rota 15" Tracklites or some other brand of lightweight wheels your overall mass would decrease...giving less rotational mass and theoretically better gas mileage. Not to mention the stock steelies that your riding on arent exactly "light" and probably weigh the same as my 16" R/T wheels...

As far as braking goes, while heavier tires/rims does mean you have more mass to slow down, you will have a wider/larger footprint that will help in the braking process, which could cancel out any negative affect the heavier wheels would have on the overall baking of the car.

Just some things to consider...
Yeah really does depend on the rims and tires. Generally larger rims are heavier, but you can get light weight rims and tires.

As far as braking, that also can vary depending on the size and width of the tire. If you go with a larger diameter tire it will have a slightly larger footprint, same as a wider tire. If you go with a larger rim, witha stock diameter size tire and witdth the footprint is the same.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Yeah thats the bad part about the Neon factory rims, they're all 6" wide except for the 16x7 ACR BBS wheels...its almost a crime that they made the SRT-4 wheels 17x6 [8D].
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Even if the same weight the portion of the weight furthest from center will greatly increase with larger rims. So not only is a 4 lbs increase it is also averages out to be further from the enter. Think about tying a ball to string. Can you spin it faster on a short or long spring. This is what you end up doing.

For mileage the following is Mostly generalizations but about 90+% true....
That being said for the most part Aluminum is lighter than steel so that helps.
Smaller the wheel the better you are off
Skinnier the tire the better you are off.
Higher the pressure.
Also get a higher quality tire designed for milage and long wear.

 
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