But not too big, or the added weight will slow you down... lol

No seriously though, this is a good point. If you have an unexpected "rice-pass" over a faster car, or especially if you are just crusing next to one, and have the ***** to free-rev it and slam into lower gear @5000 rpm and launch away on a roll (and you have a nice loud exhaust to back it up)... between the noise and unexpected launch, it can usually make you look much faster than you really are... I actually got an SRT4 to give up on it one time (in traffic) by doing this. He stopped at the next light and asked me if mine was actually an SRT as well... I laughed and told him the truth, I dont know if he believed me. Of course, quick-shifting li ke a SOB always helps too... theres a lot of people with fast cars that simply shift li ke a granny, and lose all that time hanging out between gears...

 

since when has the neon been known for its handling?

 

No ****. I am sick and tired of people over complimenting the neon handling. It's not THAT good

 

Im not comparing it to a race car... Im comparing it to the average car... in fact I'll find the link for skidpad/lateral-G/braking for vehicle comparisons to show you wh ere it ranked compared to many others...

EDIT: Will post it in a few...

 

This isnt the list I was looking for, but its a start... heres something wh ile I keep looking:

ground
skid clear- S
-pad weight ance U
(g) (lbs.) (in.) V model
0.62 . AM General Hummer
0.65 . Ford Expedition
0.66 Chevy Express Van
0.68 . Toyota Land Cruiser
0.69 Pontiac Aztek
0.70 Toyota 4Runner
0.70 Nissan Xterra
0.71 . Subaru Forester L
0.72 . Nissan Pathfinder
0.73 . Lexus RS300
0.73 Toyota Camry
0.73 Land Rover Discovery Series II
0.73 Land Rover Range Rover
0.73 . Mercedes-Benz ML430
0.74 . Mercedes-Benz ML55 AMG
0.74 . Acura MDX (from Motor Trend, no published C&D test)
0.74 . Honda CR-V
0.74 Honda Odyssey
0.75 . Mitsubishi Montero Sport 4x4
0.75 Ford Taurus
0.76 Mazda MPV
0.76 . Jeep Grand Cherokee
0.77 Toyota Echo
0.77 VW Passat
0.77 Mitsubishi Galant
0.77 Toyota Corolla
0.77 Toyota ECHO
0.77 4926 7.9Dodge Durango R/T
0.77 3884 8.2Volvo V70 XC
0.77 Honda Civic
0.78 VW Jetta
0.78 Mitsubishi Mirage
0.78 Kia Sephia
0.78 . Toyota RAV4
0.79 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
0.79 4219 5.6-8.2Audi allroad quattro
0.79 Honda Accord
0.79 4933 7.1 . BMW X5 4.4i w/ sport suspension
0.80 3191 7.5 . Subaru Forester S AWD
0.80 Saab 9-3
0.80 3293 5.5 Nissan Maxima
0.81 Mitsubishi Eclipse
0.81 Lexus GS400
0.81 Audi A6
0.82 2644 6.1 Plymouth Neon LX
0.82 3440 6.6 Saab 9-5
0.83 BMW 330i
0.83 Lexus LS430
0.84 3768 BMW 540i
0.85 Nissan Sentra
0.86 Dodge Neon R/T
0.86 BMW Z3
0.87 Audi A4
0.88 Toyota Celica GT-S
0.88 Toyota MR2 Spyder
0.88 Acura Integra
0.92 Porshe Boxster
0.93 Acura NSX
0.95 Porshe 911 Carrera 4
0.96 3410 5.0 Dodge Viper

 

I wasn't calling you out or anything. But you always hear 'suspension first, motor later' as some kind of neon-biblical instruction

nice to know how we rate up against others though. very cool

 

NP, and yeah, I here that a lot too, and a lot of times I hear that whole "suspension first" quote, it never really gets followed with a reason why (whether its for just looks, or actual performance)... but given the overall handling of the car, I dont see why a drastic need is in order to run out and buy better **** right away... especially since it is a Neon in thefirst place.I lowered mine a bit, but that was more for looks. I suppose lowering the cars center of gravity helps more with handling obviously, but I wasnt too worried about that. Im not road-racing my daily driver lol.

EDIT: Anyway to follow up, that list on the last page isnt too bad, but I used to have a link to a site that listed hundreds of vehicles and was more specific, it was pretty informative. I have been looking for it and cant find it... I guess if anyone wants to know that bad, u can find it yourself lol.

 

Jody foster looks like my ex girlfriend....what the hell was i thinking

 

Wow that was random... ha ha ha.

 

The Neon will lose, more than likely.