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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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My car was going straight before. After I have replaced the outer tie rod on the passenger side, the car is now pulling to the right side, with the steering wheel is not at the center (slightly to the right).
I give it 3 more turns in (36 total), that makes the steering wheel to the left but the car is still pulling to the right.
I found out the newer tie rod is not the same with the previous one, but by counting the threads, and turns I know I will be able to put it back the same way. (35 turns total will make the steering wheel at the center).
But my question is: How do I fix the alignment to make my car go straight again? I thought by adjusting toe, it will not make my car pull to a side.
With my naked eyes, I can see the the passenger side wheel is pointing out as much as 4-7mm when the driver side wheel is pointing out by only 2mm, or when it's completely straight (I can really tell the different between the two wheels, and that explained why my car is pulling to the right).
 

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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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When you change your tie rods you only change toe which will not make your vehicle pull in anyway.

You have something else going on. You can try to make sure the tires are all at the correct pressures and rotate the 2 front tires side to side and see if that changes anything.

Most likely you will need an alignment anyways since it's usually not perfect after changing tie rods so I would just bring it to a shop.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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cheapez, trying to guess your toe will not work, you most likely will need an alignment done at a shop. Keep driving with mess up toe will chew up your front tires.
you can try the string and ruler method, just google "toe alignment DIY". plenty of instruction. Altho I never tried.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Moparkyle
When you change your tie rods you only change toe which will not make your vehicle pull in anyway.

You have something else going on. You can try to make sure the tires are all at the correct pressures and rotate the 2 front tires side to side and see if that changes anything.

Most likely you will need an alignment anyways since it's usually not perfect after changing tie rods so I would just bring it to a shop.
I liked your answer. At least I know it's not the toe that make my car pulling to the right side.

If you remember answered my question from another thread, I want to let you know that I changed the passenger side tie rod end, and that fixed the problem I had with my car "steering wheel vibration. Feel like I'm running on a flat tire".

Other than that, I had my dad changed the brake fluid, and the brake pads for me. I don't think the new brake pads are holding on one wheel, and make the car pull, but I will have that check again.

My alignment is 6 months ago. I will bring my car to the shop if I have to.

Thank you.
 

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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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cheapez, trying to guess your toe will not work, you most likely will need an alignment done at a shop. Keep driving with mess up toe will chew up your front tires.
you can try the string and ruler method, just google "toe alignment DIY". plenty of instruction. Altho I never tried.
I only changed the passenger side tie rod. I know 35 turns will make my steering wheel at the center again, so toe hasn't changed.

The problem I have now with my car is it pulling to the right side if I let go the steering wheel.

I don't mind if the tires got wear a little. I want to learn to do it.
The shop usually give you a little toe in anyway, to make your car more stable, not wandering on the road.

Thank you.
I have tried the string method before, and other methods similar to that.
 

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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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it's always good to replace both tie rods equally, even lower ball joints while you're down there
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapez
I only changed the passenger side tie rod. I know 35 turns will make my steering wheel at the center again, so toe hasn't changed.

The problem I have now with my car is it pulling to the right side if I let go the steering wheel.

I don't mind if the tires got wear a little. I want to learn to do it.
The shop usually give you a little toe in anyway, to make your car more stable, not wandering on the road.

Thank you.
I have tried the string method before, and other methods similar to that.
If the toe is mess up bad enough, it will pull. Like when you install a New Rack and Pinion. On a Neon, if the Toe is more than 1 degree out, it will pull. 1 degree is A LOT. If the Tie Rod is a different brand than the one used on ur car previously, you toe will definitely be off by A LOT. 1 turn on the tie rod thread is almost half of a degree.


what about a Tire rotation? could be a tire pull. verify it is not the tire.
On Neon, if you know your toe is dead ON and still pulls, only thing you can really do is Slot the bottom strut hole and mess with the Camber. But then again, that requires alignment machine to make a precise alignment.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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The only thing toe does is wear tires and change the steering wheel.

Wherever the centerline of the toe is, is where your steering wheel will be.

For example. If your right front is toed in a 2 degrees and the left front is toe at 0. Then your steering wheel will be to the right and it will drive straight down the road with both wheels at 1 degree.


There are only 3 things that will make it pull.. Camber, Caster, and tires.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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I think Moparkyle is right about toe, camber, and caster. I only start to learn about the steering system but I have always thought the same.
If toe make my car pulling to the right side, then why I couldn't make it pulling to the left side by adjusting toe? The only thing that changed is the position of the steering wheel.

I'm not worrying about toe in, toe out right now. I want it to toe in a little, or zero toe is fine.

I'm not sure why my car is pulling to the right.
I don't want to take off the wheels again. I broke a wheel stud the last time.
I hope the car will run for a while, as I'm tired of fixing it.

I can see the passenger side wheel is turning away from the center of the car more than the driver side wheel (If the driver side wheel toe out by 1 degree, then the passenger side wheel is 2 degree). It's hard to tell but I can see the different.
 

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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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You can adjust toe by rotate the inner tie rod right (that is what it made for)? Because I don't want to take off the wheels again.

Also, do you know if camber, and caster adjustable on the Dodge Neon?

Thank you so much.
 

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