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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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How do you BFG's do on the wet or ice? I think I have Toyo's on my truck at the moment, and they SUCK........
BFGs I ran once and they weren't that great. Now Milestar is the best mud terrian I have used to date. Now my buddy has General Grabber ATX and driving his truck they handle really well. When I need 4wd in the snow his did it in 2wd, birth open diffs.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
How do you BFG's do on the wet or ice? I think I have Toyo's on my truck at the moment, and they SUCK........
While no tire is perfect, BFGs are probably the best all-around tire I've owned. They drive nice on pavement, have siping for rain and ice, and are snow rated so I can take them up to the passes when "traction tires" are required. They have been wearing very well and evenly and are now four years old exactly with a good 6-12 months left on the tread. Plus they look the best. They do lose traction sometimes on hills and I can actually spin them once in awhile on wet pavement. But knowing when to shift and the terrain is key. I can do donuts in the snow and climb out of snow easily but they will spin easier in 2wd. The ATPs were better in the snow but wore terribly on pavement and cupped. Nitto Terra Grappler (toyos) were hard and wore great on pavement but lacked traction in snow and rain. Cooper STs were mediocre at everything.

Many people have two sets of tires out here but I prefer one set that is jack of all trades. That's the BFG. Here's a little comparison for what I've owned:
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Stock Michelen's: great pavement, good rain, decent snow, bad ice, good wear.
Cooper ST (old version): good pavement, good rain, good snow, decent ice, bad wear.
Nitto Terra Grappler: great pavement, good rain, decent snow, decent ice, great wear.
Cooper ATP: decent pavement, good rain, great snow, good ice, bad wear.
BFG TA KO2: good pavement, good rain, good snow, good ice, good wear.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramman18
While no tire is perfect, BFGs are probably the best all-around tire I've owned. They drive nice on pavement, have siping for rain and ice, and are snow rated so I can take them up to the passes when "traction tires" are required. They have been wearing very well and evenly and are now four years old exactly with a good 6-12 months left on the tread. Plus they look the best. They do lose traction sometimes on hills and I can actually spin them once in awhile on wet pavement. But knowing when to shift and the terrain is key. I can do donuts in the snow and climb out of snow easily but they will spin easier in 2wd. The ATPs were better in the snow but wore terribly on pavement and cupped. Nitto Terra Grappler (toyos) were hard and wore great on pavement but lacked traction in snow and rain. Cooper STs were mediocre at everything.

Many people have two sets of tires out here but I prefer one set that is jack of all trades. That's the BFG. Here's a little comparison for what I've owned:
(Rating legend: Great - Good - Decent - Bad)

Stock Michelen's: great pavement, good rain, decent snow, bad ice, good wear.
Cooper ST (old version): good pavement, good rain, good snow, decent ice, bad wear.
Nitto Terra Grappler: great pavement, good rain, decent snow, decent ice, great wear.
Cooper ATP: decent pavement, good rain, great snow, good ice, bad wear.
BFG TA KO2: good pavement, good rain, good snow, good ice, good wear.
Yeah, give the price of tires, I certainly cannot afford two sets...... I have 285/70/16's on the truck now, but, with 4.56 gears, I really need a larger tire. Tires on the truck now have some pretty good tread on them yet.... and I have another used set sitting in the barn..... (don't recall what they are.....) It's likely I will just toss the 'free' ones on when the current set is due for retirement, as opposed to spending north of a thousand dollars on tires.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Yeah, give the price of tires, I certainly cannot afford two sets...... I have 285/70/16's on the truck now, but, with 4.56 gears, I really need a larger tire. Tires on the truck now have some pretty good tread on them yet.... and I have another used set sitting in the barn..... (don't recall what they are.....) It's likely I will just toss the 'free' ones on when the current set is due for retirement, as opposed to spending north of a thousand dollars on tires.
Didn't even know they made a 285/70/16. I'm sure you want more tire for those gears but isn't it about the same as 3.55 and 245s when stock? Grab some cheap 285/75 or 295/75 tires. There's plenty of brands out there now. Find a Discount Tire shop. I got my new BFGs installed for 860 in 2017.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramman18
Didn't even know they made a 285/70/16. I'm sure you want more tire for those gears but isn't it about the same as 3.55 and 245s when stock? Grab some cheap 285/75 or 295/75 tires. There's plenty of brands out there now. Find a Discount Tire shop. I got my new BFGs installed for 860 in 2017.
Prices apparently have gone up. I checked several places about town...... and prices are all within about 50 bucks of each other. And if I am going to spend that kind of scratch on new tires, then I am gonna get what I want.

This truck came stock with 265's. As it sits now, if I am hauling a trailer, I am pushing about 2700 RPM at 55 mph in tow/haul mode. I can literally watch my gas gauge go down.... The 8.0 is a thirsty beast. Bumping to 35's will drop that a couple hundred RPM, to a more reasonable level. Should help on gas mileage a bit for my normal driving as well.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 10:01 AM
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Hmm there's a set of 315s on Discount for 832. That's cheaper than they were in 2017. Tires fluctuate constantly but deals are out there. If I were hauling a trailer, I'd want the RPMs at least at 2700. I would say you've got a great setup there. But I get it, we're rarely content with what we have. Btw, we've totally pirated this thread.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 10:06 AM
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Hmm there's a set of 315s on Discount for 832. That's cheaper than they were in 2017. Tires fluctuate constantly but deals are out there. If I were hauling a trailer, I'd want the RPMs at least at 2700. I would say you've got a great setup there. But I get it, we're rarely content with what we have. Btw, we've totally pirated this thread.
Oh come on, threads never go off topic here.

The 8.0 doesn't need to be that high in the RPM band to generate good power. Especially on the freeway when everything is already moving along good. I think it's over 350lbs/ft at as low as 1600 RPM.... (peak is 450, stock) and it redlines at 4500.... not a high spinning motor.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 11:08 AM
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My vote is for tires is the Goodyear duratracs. They last decently on gravel, handle the weight if you haul or tow. They work awesome in snow/ice (you can get them studded). They are ok in mud, tend to pack-up quickly in clay. I have set on my 2010 diesel.

I have a set of BFG ko's on my 2016, they work well but wear out fast on gravel and if you tow. They work decent in snow but ok on ice. They aren't that great in mud as they pack-up with mud/clay quickly.

My 2001 has a set of mastercraft AT's on it. They are cheap and last decently on the hiway. I was told that mastercraft are rebrand coopers tires.

My 2020 work truck has a set of cooper AT's on it, but they aren't good at the mud/snow. I'm hoping to wear them out fast.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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Studs are illegal in michigan. (that would solve a lot of my issues though. )

Recently, a pipeline wen thru here, and they tore up a couple sections of road that I drive regularly. The asphalt they put down was smoother than a baby's butt..... and if it's a bit chilly, and rains, black ice forms right quick. My current tires have zero traction on that. Straight stretch of road, no bumps, but, if you are on the gas AT ALL, (even just maintaining speed) the rear lets go....... First time I hit that, was an eye-opening experience...... I tried to recover, but, it just wasn't happening. I understood that I WAS going to end up off the road, so, though it best if I decided where, not random chance...... so, when I saw a spot with no obstacles, no deep ditch, and basically straight off into a field, I went that way...... once in the field, I was actually driving again, instead of being a passenger with a steering wheel. Slowed down, pulled back onto the road, and drove the rest of the way to work in 4wd..... (which, silly me, didn't think I needed..... the roads didn't *look* that bad......)

I know there really isn't a tire that would have done much better in those conditions..... but, the tires just don't have any traction in snow/ice. They suck. Time for something different before winter comes along again.
 
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Studs are illegal in michigan. (that would solve a lot of my issues though. )

Recently, a pipeline wen thru here, and they tore up a couple sections of road that I drive regularly. The asphalt they put down was smoother than a baby's butt..... and if it's a bit chilly, and rains, black ice forms right quick. My current tires have zero traction on that. Straight stretch of road, no bumps, but, if you are on the gas AT ALL, (even just maintaining speed) the rear lets go....... First time I hit that, was an eye-opening experience...... I tried to recover, but, it just wasn't happening. I understood that I WAS going to end up off the road, so, though it best if I decided where, not random chance...... so, when I saw a spot with no obstacles, no deep ditch, and basically straight off into a field, I went that way...... once in the field, I was actually driving again, instead of being a passenger with a steering wheel. Slowed down, pulled back onto the road, and drove the rest of the way to work in 4wd..... (which, silly me, didn't think I needed..... the roads didn't *look* that bad......)

I know there really isn't a tire that would have done much better in those conditions..... but, the tires just don't have any traction in snow/ice. They suck. Time for something different before winter comes along again.
I ordered 4 General Grabber ATX 37 13.5 17 for $750 I'll let you know how they do if you are interested should be here next Friday
 
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