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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Are you *sure* you couldn't have ponied up a couple of extra for Moog?
I'll second that.

$1200 in ball joints and tie rods?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHA Theres like $400 MAX wirth of parts there. Good to see they're charging you $800 labor. That is the most upserd quote I have ever heard. Do it yourself.
My qoute was over 1900 dollars.
Napa Retail: (varies slightly by locale and corporate vs. franchise store)

Inner tie rod-----$62.49/each
Outertie rod------$57.99/each
Idler arm assy.---------$81.49
Pittman arm------------$84.49
Ball joint--------$67.49/each (upper and lower are different part, just same price)

So that's $676.90+tax in parts alone, if he needed everything (and assuming his truck is a 1/2 ton). Obviously, control arm bushings, sway bar links, shocks, etc. would be more. This is all the premium line lifetime warranty stuff. The China made crap is about 40% cheaper.

Labor is:

Ball joints, 1.7 hours/side (3.4 total)
Tie rods, 1.0 hours/side (2.0 total)
Idler arm, 0.5 hours
Pittman arm, 0.5 hours

$93/hr at my shop, so $595.20, plus $59 for a thrust angle alignment.

And shop list price on parts is a bit higher than retail (about 25-30% typically)

Add shop supplies and tax, rightabout$1,650 for everything OTD where I'm at.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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I'm goin to put the ball joints in and then ride it for a month or so, then replace the tie rods and monroe shocks. hopefully my joints will hold out for 6 mos- 1 year and then i go with moog.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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loosened up the crown nuts but found out i dont have the right allen to fit the caliper. what's something i can do to speed up the process when i have the right tools? not sure what i can do beside more penetration liquid. also frustrated right now too lol.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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soooo I feel really dumb. I was so focused on those writeups, I just now realized I don't have an axle shaft because mine is 2wd. LOL. good times. I'll see what I can do in the afternoon tomorrow, I don't have the right hex size in my tool box, so I gotta go get me some.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Recieved the parts today and instead of including 4 ball joints, they shipped 2 upper ball joints and two tie rods. sent an email and they said the lower joints will be shipped tomorrow.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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I've taken all the crowns off, but can't seem to budge the knuckle off the joints or tie rod end. is it safe to just wack the heck out of it?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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Put the castle nut back on, but loosely. Using a large ball peen hammer, rap the knuckle as hard as you can. The tie-rods will loosen and it may take a few blows to do it. The ball-joints will have to be pressed out.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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yeah i've read to keep them on. what is the purpose of keeping them on? more surface area to hit?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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more surface area, and you dont mushroom the end from beating on it, and if you did ever half to reuse something the threads wouldent be totaly wrecked
 
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Old Nov 22, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Not to mention it keeps things from flying apart when the stud and knuckle finally separate.

I'm actually kind of worried your going to injure yourself doing this repair...

edit: just realised you just changing tie rods at this time. I had visions of you beating on the ball joints with nothing restraining the coil spring.
 
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