lol, this game is fun.

Short answer. Maximise flow.


Call me by my name if you could. Andy.

your my boy, blue!

20DodgeNeon00 only,
Tell me how this happens? How do headers free up horsepower?

think your getting to the crux of my argument there.

Sorry I didn't know it was an exclusive game. It was good answer though wasn't it.

Thanks, you ruined it. I wanted to hear it from 20DodgeNeon00.

HAHA, was just trying to mess with you.We got this nice heated battle goingon,and I thought i'd throw a joke in and lighten things up a bit. Look at the attached picture and you'll see what I ment.

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lol it sounds like ur reading right from a magazine. for the most part, a bolt on is a bolt on. there is no true, or false,FIRST bolt on. PS, if u look at the dynos from that mustang website and you know what you are looking at, the normal headers are proven to be more useful in a stock engine and i can attest that they are more useful in a not-so-stock engine. (and i don't mean thermostat this or spark plugs that)


Silver: its cool how u are trying to mediate and settle this debate, but i think we are splitting hairs here when we are asked tospeak technically about headers. indy and myself have done a lot of things with cars/trucks together and seperate and while that may mean we know what we are doing, it doesnt qualify us as experts enough to speak "technically". so i really don't think there is a need to speak technically or scientifically. people who are reasearching months and months for something like headers is rediculous. the car automotive industry is one or the other: u either GET IT or you DON'T. i think we've found more than one example of the latter.

Well here's my 2 cents on it...

Well if you're buying headers to increase performance great. I'm not sure what the point of buying an exhaust system before you upgrade your engine and at least your airintakeis? (seems kinda like wiping before you poop).
Although what the hell you have to start somewhere...

If you're buying headers to make your exhaust louder get a life... Go cut your muffler off and dump it after the cat. It'll be loud. Hopefully nobody on my beloved Dodge forum would do this... but trust me I live around a bunch of dorks with 4 cylinder cars with ****ty overpriced aluminum spoilers on them and coffee can exhausts. So I know all about ***s who think sound = performance. I'll be trying to sleep at night and I hear what sounds to be leaf blowers and weed wackers reving up and down the main road.

At least peoplewho own trucks in general seem to be a little bit more mechanicallyintelligent. Not everyone but some. Hell there's this kid in anF-150 he just got a few monthsago a few blocks from where I live. He's only 17 soit's excusable stupidity (you know the type... he never misses a chance to smoke his tires going around a corner orgoing straight from a stop sign or whatever...)
Anyways when he first got it he was all obsessed with making it loud andaskedabout getting headers to make it louder.We straight piped it for him instead. I think he's happy now. Thesoundequals power in his mind lol, and I think it would be pointless to have him go spend his hard earned money on headers (just a kid making7.50 an hour orsome kind of slave wage like that)when he's just going to **** that truck all up anyway.although there is a lesson to be learned from all this.

Ignorance is bliss. I use to feel alot more comfortable beating on my vehicles before I knew how much damage I was doing to them .

i like ***** , but i really love BIG *****....

Same here, but NOTHING beats a juicy ***