ORIGINAL: CPTAFW163

No, they don't need to take the TC off to do the plenum. But since the water pump is attached to the TC cover, I think they might add2-3 hours to the total labor time. Because theymight change the main sealswhen they remove the oil pan (need to take off oil panwhen you take the TC cover off).

If I were you, i would not take yours in, and buy topols with the money in labor you will save. The shop will charge 150 for a gasket kit (that they won't use all the gaskets for). As far as labor....look at paying about 6-800 depending on hourly rate. ALSO, a shop will say they installed a double roller, when they will probably replace the stock one you have with another stock one that costs twice as much as an aftermarket with timing advance/retard. my timing chain costs 5 dollars. Shops will always take the more expensive part because they get 20% off the price from the supplier but charge you the full price. Thats how they make a living. Also, if it only takes them 4 hours to do a job that says 8 hours on he computer...you get charged the 8 hours from their computer. Same goes if it takes them 10 hours to do an 8 hour job...they will only charge you 8 hours.

One of my good friends is a mechanic and he was able toget paid50 hours a week when he only worked 40. THats how they make their money...they need to be fast and do good work.