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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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If you have three connectors on your pcm then it will probably work. If you have one it definately won't. You can call SCT with the part# off your pcm and they can tell you.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Oh yeas they do .. in cab driver side there is a plug , SCT tuner is for OBDII , and you have ODB II , 94-95 are OBD I , what i heard is a 96 5.2 wont work , but if you get a 5.9 PCM then the SCT tuner will work , im not 100% sure. either way you will still need a PCM.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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The B&G flash where you send your pcm in, no matter how much or how long you talk to Dave on the phone, is still a canned tune. It works better for some than it does for others. Its a guess, and I'm guessing that it didn't work too well for IndyRamMan.
Exactly the reason. I talked to him and asked him about what perameters he was going to put in, and how he could generate specific perameters for MY setup without a dyno, and he kept blowing smoke up my a$$ and saying dont worry dont worry iv been doing this for years, I have over 1200 setups to choose from. I didnt want to send out for a generic computer and he made me confident that I was not going to get that, when I get it back I had no list of the perameters set on the pcm like I had requested on the phone and in writing with my pcm, and the a:f is WAY off. I would have spent the extra 200 for the sct if I knew I was going to get my chain yanked by this sheister.
BTW, I don't think Dave is a sheister. He has been trying his best with the technology available.IMO you can blame DC for being so tightassed with thier stuff.You could have the EXACT same setup as some other truck that he has dynoed, but,if your cylinder pressure is up or down 10 lb's, tires bigger, slag in an intake runner, etc. orany of alot of thingsdifferentfrom that truck and thatmotor it's going to skew everything. Dave was instrumental in getting the new SCT stuff out there and workable.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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PA,
from your post i got that the SCT works for the 5.2, but not a 5.9. So basically i can't get a tuner for my truck. I have to stick with PCM flashes.

I think i will just stick with the Mopar PCM. I need my truck to get rolling again, and hopefully they can get one in in a couple days.

Thanks for he input guys.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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PA,
from your post i got that the SCT works for the 5.2, but not a 5.9. So basically i can't get a tuner for my truck. I have to stick with PCM flashes.

I think i will just stick with the Mopar PCM. I need my truck to get rolling again, and hopefully they can get one in in a couple days.

Thanks for he input guys.
You got it backwards , SCT mite not work on a 5.2 PCM but will work on a 5.9 PCM this is for a 96 PCM , rember 96 is when dodge change from OBD I to OBD II.. ill send ya a pm who to get ahold of for the SCT...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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I would agree with most of the above comments. Though i'm very very happy with my B&G, I can see how on a more seriously modified truck like Indy's how it might not be the best option. I think SCT is the right way to go for Indy's type of application. For my type of truck and other near stock trucks, B&G is hands down my choice. It does what a programmer like Hypertech and Superchips should. They just come up short though, that is why they throw in so many other feature (tire size, rev limit, etc). Those are not things you would use more then about once, but you pay over $300 for their programmer, and see little gains. The B&G was one of my favorite mods because it just really woke everything up the way it should be.

Mopowar, You havn't been around much lately, but good to see you back around again. Your opinon is always a good one I think.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Now that the SCT softwareis out, alot of people are looking at the SC and Hypertech programming in detail, and calling it things like "a joke" and "shameful". There again though, these guys were working with what they had (or what DC would let them have) availableat the time.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Mopowar, You havn't been around much lately, but good to see you back around again. Your opinon is always a good one I think.

Thanks man. Fantasy Football always sucks up my free monitortime during the season. My buddy got me into that sht, and I became addicted-dam him.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Get a SCT. I'll bet anything your running wayyyy rich. There isa whole lot of power locked up in the tune. Believe me. I'll send you a pm.
Id bet that its lean. Runs hot as anything. Id like to get that tune asap, but things dont always work out the way you plan.


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The B&G flash where you send your pcm in, no matter how much or how long you talk to Dave on the phone, is still a canned tune. It works better for some than it does for others. Its a guess, and I'm guessing that it didn't work too well for IndyRamMan.
Exactly the reason. I talked to him and asked him about what perameters he was going to put in, and how he could generate specific perameters for MY setup without a dyno, and he kept blowing smoke up my a$$ and saying dont worry dont worry iv been doing this for years, I have over 1200 setups to choose from. I didnt want to send out for a generic computer and he made me confident that I was not going to get that, when I get it back I had no list of the perameters set on the pcm like I had requested on the phone and in writing with my pcm, and the a:f is WAY off. I would have spent the extra 200 for the sct if I knew I was going to get my chain yanked by this sheister.
BTW, I don't think Dave is a sheister. He has been trying his best with the technology available.IMO you can blame DC for being so tightassed with thier stuff.You could have the EXACT same setup as some other truck that he has dynoed, but,if your cylinder pressure is up or down 10 lb's, tires bigger, slag in an intake runner, etc. orany of alot of thingsdifferentfrom that truck and thatmotor it's going to skew everything. Dave was instrumental in getting the new SCT stuff out there and workable.
Reguardless of his limitations, I still consider him a sheister because he told me everything would be perfect when it turned out not to be. He disreguarded my questions of how he could get the tune right for my truck without having it in shop, and tried to make me feel like an a$$ for questioning him. If he had told me that he couldnt guarenty that it would come out right, I wouldnt have an issue if it didnt. He said there would be 0 issues, there are, therefore hes a sheister and I will never buy a product from him dispite how good hes been to other people or how innovative he is with this or that. Bad customer service doesnt produce good results. I dont have a problem with his abilities, its his word.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Get a SCT. I'll bet anything your running wayyyy rich. There isa whole lot of power locked up in the tune. Believe me. I'll send you a pm.
Id bet that its lean. Runs hot as anything. Id like to get that tune asap, but things dont always work out the way you plan.


ORIGINAL: mopowar

ORIGINAL: IndyRamMan

ORIGINAL: mopowar

The B&G flash where you send your pcm in, no matter how much or how long you talk to Dave on the phone, is still a canned tune. It works better for some than it does for others. Its a guess, and I'm guessing that it didn't work too well for IndyRamMan.
Exactly the reason. I talked to him and asked him about what perameters he was going to put in, and how he could generate specific perameters for MY setup without a dyno, and he kept blowing smoke up my a$$ and saying dont worry dont worry iv been doing this for years, I have over 1200 setups to choose from. I didnt want to send out for a generic computer and he made me confident that I was not going to get that, when I get it back I had no list of the perameters set on the pcm like I had requested on the phone and in writing with my pcm, and the a:f is WAY off. I would have spent the extra 200 for the sct if I knew I was going to get my chain yanked by this sheister.
BTW, I don't think Dave is a sheister. He has been trying his best with the technology available.IMO you can blame DC for being so tightassed with thier stuff.You could have the EXACT same setup as some other truck that he has dynoed, but,if your cylinder pressure is up or down 10 lb's, tires bigger, slag in an intake runner, etc. orany of alot of thingsdifferentfrom that truck and thatmotor it's going to skew everything. Dave was instrumental in getting the new SCT stuff out there and workable.
Reguardless of his limitations, I still consider him a sheister because he told me everything would be perfect when it turned out not to be. He disreguarded my questions of how he could get the tune right for my truck without having it in shop, and tried to make me feel like an a$$ for questioning him. If he had told me that he couldnt guarenty that it would come out right, I wouldnt have an issue if it didnt. He said there would be 0 issues, there are, therefore hes a sheister and I will never buy a product from him dispite how good hes been to other people or how innovative he is with this or that. Bad customer service doesnt produce good results. I dont have a problem with his abilities, its his word.
Hot is indicative of alot of things, but, if you're running lean offthe M1 flash, then you did something right. Most canned tunes err on the rich side to keep people from blowing thier stuff up. Only way to tell for sure is a wideband.As you know, tunes can be rich in some places, right on in some places, and lean in other places. Unless that was a play on words referring to the fire,If your running hot after a stop, 1st, 2nd, 3rd get scared and let off run welcome to the club. After v10 ( the flash I'm on now ) I'm still a little bit rich in most places, but my fans are running hard when it's 40 degrees outside after a 'diagnostic run'.

At first, I was put off a little by Dave's abrasiveness, butI think that's just who he his. I don't think he is out there to rip anyone off. His people skills may be lacking, but he has helped many people out.

 
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