Alright August of 06 I purchased edelbrock headers with the ti-tech coating and now have found out they are junk. I worked and worked tokeep them tight and today the welds busted and theres not much else I can do. I really want to get a set of long-tube headers, but I've header pacesetters are crap so I'd like to avoid that. Is there any other set-up I can use to use long tube headers. My ram has a 360 and is a 4x4. If someone could help me out id appreciate it.

 

you could get them welded up...........They broke because you most likely overtorqued them to try and seal the leak, instead of replacing the gaskets

 

Like force says, overtightening the bolts can cause the welds to break. The biggest problem I have noticed on the foru mhere in regards to any brand of header is keeping it sealed. I tried Edelbrock, 2 types of NAPA top of the line, and Mr Gasket exhaust manifold gaskets. All leaked within a few months. I then purchased a set of Remflex gaskets and no leaks for over a year. Stil lsounding strong.

BTW, I am running the same headers as you had.

The only other way to insure that you have no gasket issues is to have the headers milled to insure all of the mounting flanges are perfectly parallel and then doing the same to the head where the manifold mounts. there seems to be something odd about our Magnum engines that this is a common problem with aftermarket headers.

 

What did you "hear" about the Eddies? I've been runningPacesetter long tubes (hard) for about 8 mos. and, aside from a few minor blemishes, they look like they did when I installed them. Painted steel headers suck no matter who makes them. Pacesetter is no exception to that rule. You "heard" that from people who wanted to go the cheapest route that they could and bought painted steel Pacesetter headers. Then theygot pissed when they rusted. As if they didn't know.Whichever headers you go with, bite the bullet and get them coated. John Mercedes sells some custom long tubes, but they are pricey. Also, I think I heard something about someone making the Hookers that are made for the Dakotas work on a Ram.

 

I believe that he may be confusing the Pacesetter shorty headers with the newer long tubes. I also had a very bad experience with the Pacesetter/Summit shorties where I burnt out both headers withina relatively short time period (3 months). I have Edelbrock ceramic shorties on now and have had no such issue.

As far as Pacesetter long tubes, I have not heard anything except good information about them from the other forum members. They have been out a relatively short period of time so only the future will tell if they will stand up to long term use, but as for right now I believe that they will do exactly what they should do.

 

it might be an interesting DIY project
to attach a magnesium 'cathodic protection anode'
to a set of headers
similar to the way that electric water heaters in your house
are protected from corrosion on the inside

the magnesium would have to be brushed off as it corrodes
and replaced every so often

it might also protect other metal parts on the engine from corrosion too

 

Wow, are you serious? Magnesium on the headers? You do know that magnesium is highly flammable, right?

 

welllllll....the autoignition temperature of magnesium is 510 C....which is 950 F....I guess it's possible that it'll get that hot, i've had my cast manifolds cherry-red a few times that i've noticed. That's still pretty hot though.

 

I'm veryhappy with my pacesetter long tubes, and they're even the uncoated variety. I just stripped em down and painted em with some hi temp paint. They're going to rust, and I'm totally fine with that, cause then they'll match the rest of my truck! However I've had zero issues with leakes. I used felpro metallic gaskets and ARP stainless header bolts. This and ensuring proper port-gasket alignment when doing the initial install is KEY to not having blow outs or leaks. The bolt holes on the gaskets are always a bit large so when you got to install the header the ports are actually misaligned with the gaskets which leads to the premature failure you've experienced. I line up the gasket on the flange before installing and actually use some small pieces of tape to hold the gasket to the flange perfectly aligned to ease installation. I only use tape on the part of the flange between the ports which is not a sealing surface and has no effect on sealing of the header. tape can simply be cut away after, i just left it cause i couldn't care less what my engine looks like.

Peformance gains have defintiely been noticeable. Rips up hills it used to struggle on and my gas mileage has gone about 15% on the highway.

 

I'd like to replace my shorties with the long tubes, but the exhaust shops around here (Minneapolis) think that their welding rods are made of gold and charge an arm and a leg to do just a little custom work. Until I can find a shop that is reasonable I'll have to live with my shorties and factory cat.