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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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I run 4.56/35" now, and it is not quite as good as the 4.10/285 combo was, but it is close.
Told youya shoulda got the 4.88s
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Hey everybody! Im new to the forum and was reading about all the tire and gear combos ya'll have. I have a 01 5.9 QC offroad package. I just recently bought this truck with 68,000 miles.It has315 AT's on it w/4.10'S. This truck is bone stock and my last roundtrip I averaged 13.5 mpg. I want to do some upgrades for better mpg's and performance. I'm not going to get to extreme, but would like to make some improvements.

 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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For increased mpg:

-Take the big tires off it
-Lose the spare tire
-Lose the Tailgate
-Lose the back seat if you don't use it
-Lose the A/C system
-Keep a light foot on the skinny pedal
-Get a less restrictive air cleaner (just use the search button for that one, there's a million threads, even if they are 90% full of ****, I'm sure you'll find something useful)
-Search "Fastman 52mm throttle body"
- Less restrictive exhaust system

For increased performance, just type that into the search function, you'll find all you need to know and more. Good luck, and welcome to the forum
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Default RE: 4.10 gears vs. 265 tires

ORIGINAL: Cereal Killer

For increased mpg:

-Take the big tires off it
-Lose the spare tire
-Lose the Tailgate
-Lose the back seat if you don't use it
-Lose the A/C system
-Keep a light foot on the skinny pedal
-Get a less restrictive air cleaner (just use the search button for that one, there's a million threads, even if they are 90% full of ****, I'm sure you'll find something useful)
-Search "Fastman 52mm throttle body"
- Less restrictive exhaust system

For increased performance, just type that into the search function, you'll find all you need to know and more. Good luck, and welcome to the forum
BTW, also includethis general rule:
More Performance = less MPG
Better MPG = less performance

Sometimes you can get both, but generally you get one or the other.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Default RE: 4.10 gears vs. 265 tires

ORIGINAL: Cereal Killer

For increased mpg:

-Take the big tires off it
-Lose the spare tire
-Lose the Tailgate
-Lose the back seat if you don't use it
-Lose the A/C system
-Keep a light foot on the skinny pedal
-Get a less restrictive air cleaner (just use the search button for that one, there's a million threads, even if they are 90% full of ****, I'm sure you'll find something useful)
-Search "Fastman 52mm throttle body"
- Less restrictive exhaust system

For increased performance, just type that into the search function, you'll find all you need to know and more. Good luck, and welcome to the forum
Personally, I don't think taking the tailgate off and the A/C system out is a good idea. For one, not having a tailgate can cause damage to the bed rails because they aren't being supported anymore. It also is proven time and time again that without a tailgate, winds will actually go into the bed and cause more drag compared to a gate up. Not to mention, it looks trashy as ****. Also, A/C is a good thing. You are devaluing the reasale of your truck when you start taking out nice additions to the vehicle. Plus, neither of these things will do anything for mpgs that will be noticable.

As Cereal said, taking the 35" tires off would help, but your probably like me, and defiantly do not want to do that. But Cereal is right about the pedal, just be easy on it. Our trucks are powerhouses and can go good, but don't always be romping on it, it's a truck, they aren't meant to be raced. Free flowing exhaust entailing performance muffler and higher flow cat will free up horsepower and gain mpgs. With all of this said, don't look into that much. An engine is an engine, it's always going to have a baseline for mpgs. I have put an intake, longtube headers with an o/r y-pipe, flowmaster exhaust with a gutted cat...and guess what, my mileage is the same when I got it. It can go either way for me. If I'm taking it slow, then sure, I'll gain a mpg throughout the day, but usually it's contradicted when I'm driving it a little harder or towing something, then all of the hard work goes right down the tubes and I'm back to my standard 12.5 city....which to me, is not bad at all. For a 360 with 35" tires, I'm getting great gas mileage. I just feel bad for the guys out there paying the big gas bills with the ugly trucks, now that I could not bare.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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...Our trucks are powerhouses and can go good, but don't always be romping on it, it's a truck, they aren't meant to be raced.
Spoken from experience huh.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: Cereal Killer

For increased mpg:

-Take the big tires off it
-Lose the spare tire
-Lose the Tailgate
-Lose the back seat if you don't use it
-Lose the A/C system
-Keep a light foot on the skinny pedal
-Get a less restrictive air cleaner (just use the search button for that one, there's a million threads, even if they are 90% full of ****, I'm sure you'll find something useful)
-Search "Fastman 52mm throttle body"
- Less restrictive exhaust system

For increased performance, just type that into the search function, you'll find all you need to know and more. Good luck, and welcome to the forum
Personally, I don't think taking the tailgate off and the A/C system out is a good idea. For one, not having a tailgate can cause damage to the bed rails because they aren't being supported anymore. It also is proven time and time again that without a tailgate, winds will actually go into the bed and cause more drag compared to a gate up. Not to mention, it looks trashy as ****. Also, A/C is a good thing. You are devaluing the reasale of your truck when you start taking out nice additions to the vehicle. Plus, neither of these things will do anything for mpgs that will be noticable.

As Cereal said, taking the 35" tires off would help, but your probably like me, and defiantly do not want to do that. But Cereal is right about the pedal, just be easy on it. Our trucks are powerhouses and can go good, but don't always be romping on it, it's a truck, they aren't meant to be raced. Free flowing exhaust entailing performance muffler and higher flow cat will free up horsepower and gain mpgs. With all of this said, don't look into that much. An engine is an engine, it's always going to have a baseline for mpgs. I have put an intake, longtube headers with an o/r y-pipe, flowmaster exhaust with a gutted cat...and guess what, my mileage is the same when I got it. It can go either way for me. If I'm taking it slow, then sure, I'll gain a mpg throughout the day, but usually it's contradicted when I'm driving it a little harder or towing something, then all of the hard work goes right down the tubes and I'm back to my standard 12.5 city....which to me, is not bad at all. For a 360 with 35" tires, I'm getting great gas mileage. I just feel bad for the guys out there paying the big gas bills with the ugly trucks, now that I could not bare.
Sry man, I have to disagree. Taking off the tailgate = less weight. I have never heard of "bed rail damage" because of no tailgate. People run those gator nets... Which is pretty much no tailgate. I also would like to see some cold hard facts on tailgate up vs. tailgate down. While mythbusters may tell you one thing... I still don't buy that either (im saving my money lol). To me if feels like the truck coasts down the road better with it down. Have you ever noticed that when it snows that the snow in the bed gets thrown around usually to the front of the truck? Isn't it irronic that it still does the same thing with the tailgate down? Sure there may be a difference in volume, but try it with some small twigs. My bud n I were cutting down some trees and my bed had all that bark/ twig/ stuff in there. Wouldnt you know the small stuff still had not come out of the bed from the a little above the wheel wells to the cab? Tailgate down driving 80... still there. I don't think the flow pattern is changed much except at the tailgate, where it is freely flowing strait out of the bed, but.. yeajust my thoughts. Think of an airplane wing... curved up top, straight on the bottom. if you put your tailgate down,what if that was providing a small amout of lift? haha.. jk.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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As for the tailgate up vs down ideas, I personally tried that myself, I drove around for 3 weeks with it down, and my mpg went down .8, I have a short bed though, it may be different for someone witha long bed.

What I think was happening is because I have a short bed, most of the air that was coming off the top of the cab was passing right behind the tail gate(a small amount goes into the bed and russles the leaves, but not much), with the tailgate down, the air off the top of the cab was landing right on the tailgate, and causing drag that would not have been there with it up.

Now with a long bed, air from the cab probably lands directly in the back of the bed, and therefore with the tailgate down, it would allow for an easier escape for the air.

I dont buy the damaging bed rail thing either, even though I have seen trucks whose bed rails were falling apart(I blame that on the rust and the rust alone.)

 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Back on the subject of gears! If upgrading from 3.55s to say 4.10s would I have to change out the carrier as well in a 97 1500?
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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for the back, there is only one carrier, but for the front, the split is at 3.92, but you could just buy a "thick" gear and you would not have to replace the carrier, that is the way that I would go
 
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