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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Where's HankL? I bet he'll have an opinion on this topic that will be interesting to hear.
+1. According to the other CNG thread, the power loss is 8%. I do know that CNG vehicles DO NOT like to start in cold weather on the CNG. Usually, start them using the gas and then switch to CNG once the engine has warmed. I drove a CNG vehicle, while in the military, from Oklahoma to Texas. To me, it seemed to burn a lot of fuel, but then they did give me a van. UPS trucks are more often than not CNG, plus the propane delivery truck in my area are propane powered.

Even with a conversion, the CNG will have paid for itself after a year (depending on how large/number of tanks are with the system).

If Hank says it's worth it, I might just convert both my Dodge and my VW to run on CNG.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Where's HankL? I bet he'll have an opinion on this topic that will be interesting to hear.
+1. According to the other CNG thread, the power loss is 8%. I do know that CNG vehicles DO NOT like to start in cold weather on the CNG. Usually, start them using the gas and then switch to CNG once the engine has warmed. I drove a CNG vehicle, while in the military, from Oklahoma to Texas. To me, it seemed to burn a lot of fuel, but then they did give me a van. UPS trucks are more often than not CNG, plus the propane delivery truck in my area are propane powered.

Even with a conversion, the CNG will have paid for itself after a year (depending on how large/number of tanks are with the system).

If Hank says it's worth it, I might just convert both my Dodge and my VW to run on CNG.
You probably had to fill up a lot because CNG tanks are very heavy and are therefore much smaller than gasoline tanks.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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heh gas prices suck especially when you work at a gas station and are the one that has to change the sign! However these prices don't bother me anymore as I just bought a honda shadow for 3600 cash and now I go out and just drive around 11 bucks to fill up!(shadow is a motorcycle fyi)

Also it would be nice if the stations here in OK would give the consumer the discount that they are recieving on this ****ty new ethonal gas, but no they can't do that. My only hope is that I will see it in a bonus check this summer!! One can only hope!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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more math... i know it sucks --- these numbers account for a fully paid off 30 MPG car that you do not pay insurance on... once again enjoy your ratwagon






CNG


Conversion
$3,000.00

Miles per gallon
8.00

Price per gallon
$0.75

Fuel price per day
$7.88

power loss
20%






Daily
Total cost
Conversion
CNG daily

Daily
$19.37
$11.50
$7.88

Weekly
$96.87
$57.50
$39.38

Per check
$193.74
$114.99
$78.75

Monthly
$421.21
$250.00
$171.21

Yearly
$5,054.49
$3,000.00
$2,054.49






work days
Savings over Truck
Savings over Car

Daily
$14.23
$8.17

Weekly
$71.13
$40.87

Per check
$142.26
$81.74

Monthly
$309.28
$177.71

Yearly
$3,711.33
$2,132.55
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Well another advantage of getting a little beater gas sipper instead of a CNG conversion for the truck is that I can now keep the miles down on the truck while I drive the Swift. That means I will have the truck around a lot longer and it will stay in good condition.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Well another advantage of getting a little beater gas sipper instead of a CNG conversion for the truck is that I can now keep the miles down on the truck while I drive the Swift. That means I will have the truck around a lot longer and it will stay in good condition.
Then when its time to do some work to the truck with goodies , there is no hurry...Now ill slip the MPI intake and put on 21 lbs injectors maybe 24 lbs ..
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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For me its a no brainer. A second car is a must. Im really digging the tdi cars.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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I'm thinkin bike or geo metro.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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I'm fortunate that my commute is about 10 miles each way, so I don't really see the need to get a second vehicle.
 
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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For me its a no brainer. A second car is a must. Im really digging the tdi cars.
You can't beat an older VW diesel. If you're creative, you can go the veggie oil conversion and haul waste grease home using the Dodge, cook your mix, and have free fuel for the diesel.
 
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