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What tires for low cost, long life and good mpg?

Old Sep 30, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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Question What tires for low cost, long life and good mpg?

I definitely want LTs (not Ps) and I'm going to stick with stock size or maybe a little bigger. I'll only be on the highway, no offroading.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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your asking for a super tire, low buck tires SUCK! high milage tires arent free

Ive got a set of cooper's on mine, love them, no highway noise and agressive enough for me to get around in the woods and fields around here
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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in addition to the info below
check out what tires are on the
SFE versions of the F150 and Silverado 1500
just now getting to dealer lots
as these tires are supposed to be the
lowest rolling resistance pickup tires available
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TIRE CHOICES for BETTER MPG

Increasing the air pressure in your tires, and picking a narrow 'rib tread'
commercial delivery truck type tire that has low rolling resistance
definitely will help MPG.

Raising the air pressure by 15 psi to the max 70 psi in Goodyear Wrangler
HT 235/85R16E tires increased my mpg by +1 in a 311 mile
test run - but the ride was bone jarring. A narrow, highway rib tire like the
HT gives the lowest rolling resistance. Wide, aggressive tread tires can be
three times harder to roll. It might pay to have a 4 tire set for the weekday
commute, and a weekend mudder wide tire set.

Several Cummins Diesel Ram owners have reported that buying special
wheels and converting to 19.5 Commercial truck tire designs have
improved both MPG and tire tread life - but these tires are generally
heavier. RicksonTruck is one such special wheel seller:

http://www.ricksontruck.com/

In May of 2008, Ford and Michelin put out press releases about their joint
effort to create a new low rolling resistance tire, saying:

"The two fuel-efficient and environmentally friendly SUVs boast a projected 1
mpg fuel economy improvement for both four- and six-cylinder models, thanks in
part to a new set of 16-inch Michelin Latitude Tour low-rolling-resistance
tires, according to the automaker.
Ford and Michelin collaborated to optimize the tires' mold design and
implement a new-generation tread stock for the new Latitude Tour tire.
Low-rolling-resistance tires are part of a multifaceted Ford approach to
improving fuel economy, the company says. Other initiatives include the
introduction of energy-efficient, six-speed automatic transmissions and more
fuel efficient engine technologies. The P235/70R16 tires are standard for all
Escape and Mariner models, including hybrids. In addition to improved fuel
economy, the new tire is quieter, and Ford engineers say it delivers more
precise handling, responsive steering and helps shorten braking distances.
Escape and Mariner drivers also will notice reduced road noise and tire wear
as well as better performance in wet and snow conditions, according to the
company."


Consumers Reports is the only organization I know of that tests for rolling
resistance of tires but even they do not report the Crr number.
Quote from CR:
" Fuel mileage at a price. Some tires roll with less drag than others. The
lower a tire's rolling resistance, the more fuel you can save. Those savings
can be significant. {Pickup and SUV} Tires with the lowest rolling resistance
delivered nearly 2 mpg more at a steady 65 mph in our highway tests {2003
four-wheel-drive Ford Explorer XLT 4x4} than those with the highest rolling
resistance. The catch: While some high-scoring tires had low rolling
resistance, most tires with the lowest rolling resistance also had lower
overall scores."

In their 11/2004 Pickup & SUV tire test CR the
lowest rolling resistance tires rated 'excellent' were the:

Bridgestone Dueler H/T (D684)
Michelin Cross Terrain
Continental ContiTrac
BF Goodrich Radial Long Trail T/A

The Pickup & SUV tires with the worst rolling resistance were the:

Pirelli Scorpion STA
Kelly Safari Signature
Yokohama Geolander H/T-SG051

A tire with a 'very good' rolling resistance and high scores in other handling
and braking tests was the Hankook DynaPro AS RH03

Hankook recently announced that they had spent $10 million developing a
tire called the fx-Optimo that has even lower rolling resistance and can
give up to a 3% MPG improvement:

http://www.moderntiredealer.com/t_in...t&storyID=5961

Michelin has also recently introduced an ultra-low rolling resistance tire for
use on diesels in Europe that is available in 15 and 16 inch sizes:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/07/m...nserving-tire/

In another test of "All Season" tires in November 2005,
CR rated these tires as 'excellent' for low rolling resistance:

Michelin X Radial DT
Michelin Agility Touring
Michelin Harmony
Hankook Mileage Plus GT H707
Kumho Touring 795 A/S
Toyo 800 Ultra
Sumitomo HTR T4

In the same November 2005 issue
'All Terrain' tires were also tested
but only the
Continental ContiTrac TR
got an excellent rating for low rolling resistance in this group.

The California Air Resources board is pressing the tire companies to make
rolling resistance measurements on tires freely available to the public by
2008, one of the few reasonable things CARB has ever done in my opinion

The lower profile 17 and 20 inch tire designs used on the 2003-2005
5.7Hemi Rams have a 'sticker' tire tread and higher rolling resistance than
earlier year Rams. It is probable that if a manufacturer makes available a
235 85 R17 tire in Load Range E it would be lower rolling resistance
than the stock tires and might improve MPG by 1-2 at 70 mph.

The 2006 Ram press release says the new model will have 'low rolling
resistance tires.'

In April 2006 the "independent and non-partisan" US National Academy
of Sciences completed a report on the rolling resistance of tires and how
MPG for the entire country might be easily improved if tire makers
increased their research into how to make tires roll even easier.
The 'meat' of this report starts about page 50 at this weblink:

http://www.trb.org/publications/sr/sr286.pdf
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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I also was looking for an inexpensive LT tire, but I wanted a more aggressive tread than a street tire. I went for a set of Uniroyals that are on/off road tires from Wal-Mart. At first I was a little sceptical, but this is a beater truck, I only drive it about 3000 miles a year. Including mounting and balancing they were around $110. The next cheapest were $160, and that was for a highway tread, so I decided to give Walmart a shot. I ordered them on-line, then when they got to store I chose, they called me (4 days later). I went down, paid for them, then watched them put them on. I will admit, when I saw the two "mechanics" they did not inspire confidence. However, when I got the truck home I checked all the tire pressure and all the lug nuts, and everything was perfect. It's been three months and I haven't had to add air yet.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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I dont know about these "high Performance" types on here but i had to put new tires on my truck two winters ago ive got 50,000 miles on them and they still have at least 50% tread still on them. They are Good Year Super Sports. I may make some enemyies here but I have had very good luck out of them They are primarily on off road tire, but they have virtually no "whine" on the road. Always nice to have that type of tire for when cold season hits.
BTW you can order these tires from walmart
 
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Laramie1997
I dont know about these "high Performance" types on here but i had to put new tires on my truck two winters ago ive got 50,000 miles on them and they still have at least 50% tread still on them. They are Good Year Super Sports. I may make some enemyies here but I have had very good luck out of them They are primarily on off road tire, but they have virtually no "whine" on the road. Always nice to have that type of tire for when cold season hits.
BTW you can order these tires from walmart
I just went to good year's site they have discontinued them but the treads were pretty the same as their Good Year "Work Horse" "Extra Grip"
heres the link
http://www.goodyear.com/truck/pdf/pr...ok_LTRUK_P.pdf
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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booo goodyear workhorse tires SUCK!!! I had a set on my 85 chevy half ton and I couldnt get enough traction to pull myself out of dew covered field with them, I ended up getting the old style goodyear wranglers and really liked them
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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Wranglers? Wow. Some of the worst tires out there, IMO. If you ever drive a vehicle with a set of Firestone Destination A/T or the Bridgestone Revo A/T, you'll never go back to Wranglers.

Even their highway Wranglers suck. My wife's 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee had a set of those guys on when we purchased it. With decent tread still left, she didn't have any control at all on even slightly icy or snowy roads. Got her a set of high end Bridgestone highway tires, Dueler Alenzas I believe they are called. Much, much better.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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The 1995 Ram OEM Goodyear Wranglers RTS 245 75 R16
had a good ride
but fast tread wear

The Michelin LTX MS 245 75 R16
had very poor snow traction
poor dry & wet braking
but long tread wear

Bridgestone Dueler HL 245 75 R16
has very good dry & wet braking
low noise at high speed
good ride
only fair snow or ice traction
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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i agree with jason.i didnt like my wrangler rts's either. terrible on wet roads and snow.
 
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