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Could the next Ram be built by GM?

Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Yeah I have a F22B1 in the Accord we have. Well, the older one which is a 96. I knew the A didn't have vtec but didn't know which you had in your 93. It's funny with guys knowing what I'm talking about when it comes to Honda motors on a Dodge site. Our Accord has like 235k or something like that one it. Been through a few exhausts, few brakes, and a few axles. The axles were when it got driven hard. It's had a few hoses and sensors and stuff changed too but for the most part been very reliable. Original motor and transmission. The exhausts and brakes were mostly when we lived on a mountain and had to travel a rough gravel road everyday. Then I took the stock one off for a nice Invidia cat back. Years later a ticket was given for that so I put the stock one back on and have the Invidia in the basement. The car likes to warp rotors but that seems to be it's only common issue where as the Dodge has a ton of them.

Then we have a 06 Accord V6 6speed with the 3.0L in it. The 96 isn't all that fast really but it's not super duper slow either but I wouldn't even really call it quick. I took it to the drag strip once I think. The 06 is a ton faster and while I might not call it fast it is very quick.

The 96 had a few mods but not a ton. Had a bunch of appearance and sound system stuff and then had a K&N short ram intake. Well CAI but I didn't put the last piece on so used it as a short ram. Then had a Invidia cat back exhaust and that was about it. It ran decent. It now just has the K&N since I took the exhaust back off.

My Accord actually does pretty decent in the snow to be honest.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
Speaking of "never breaking" vehicles, my 2002 Cavalier was one of the best, reliable cars I ever owned. I bought the car with 2 miles on the odometer (more or less) and she logged over 140,000 miles until some woman pulled in front of me. One trip to the dealer was for an update to the PCM (car was running rich and threw a code), but was otherwise a great car. 5-speed plain-Jane model that handled great in the snow and ice. People were always guffawing at what a POS the "Crapalier" was, but I maintained the car with synthetic oil and changed the oil filter, air filter,fuel filter, and serpentine belt on a regular schedule. I didn't even have to put brakes on it until 124K miles and the battery lasted 5 years (unheard of).

Was it the best built car in the world? Hell no. The seats were lousy on trips over 2 hours and the car developed some rattles in the dash, but other than that she was dependable and fuel efficient. On one road trip I pulled almost 37mpg.
I think you might have been an exception. My parents-in-law bought a Cavalier once, a few years before my wife went to college (about eight years ago). It would randomly accelerate when they hit the brake, and brake when they hit the gas pedal. The car did a ton of funny electrical and mechanical things that the mechanics could never diagnose or fix.

Finally, they took it back to the dealer the last time, and said (again) "Take it for a test drive." He did (again), took it around the block, came back, pulled up in front of them, and said "I can't find anything wrong with it, it drives fine." But this time, as he pulled it into the parking space and applied the brake, it started to slow at first, then suddenly accelerated as if he had floored it, crashing it straight into the side of the dealership. The dealership gave them their money back for the car, and they sued Chevrolet for not acknowledging the problem (even AFTER the money was refunded). They settled out of court, and got even more money.

All of my friends who have ever even remotely heard of working on diesel engines will tell you the Ford V8 diesels pull more than the Cummins faster, but are in the shop far, far more often for far more problems then the Cummins. The Cummins is far more reliable.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PURPLDODGERAMITMFERS
did it have the 2.2?
Yes. Plain old 2.2L with a timing chain. Funny how a "low end" car gets a timing chain. The engine wasn't damaged in the collision and I ended up selling it when I parted out the car. I told people that I had so much faith in that car I would have driven it from Oklahoma to Alaska.

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I will say the older Honda's I've seen and dealt with that were made overseas in Japan are a lot better quality than these ones made in the USA now. However, the ones made in the USA are still better quality than the so called "American Car companies" that seem to have most stuff made in Mexico.
That's funny. My Mexican built Dodge Ram seems to be of better quality than those built in the US plants.

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I think you might have been an exception. My parents-in-law bought a Cavalier once, a few years before my wife went to college (about eight years ago). It would randomly accelerate when they hit the brake, and brake when they hit the gas pedal. The car did a ton of funny electrical and mechanical things that the mechanics could never diagnose or fix.

Finally, they took it back to the dealer the last time, and said (again) "Take it for a test drive." He did (again), took it around the block, came back, pulled up in front of them, and said "I can't find anything wrong with it, it drives fine." But this time, as he pulled it into the parking space and applied the brake, it started to slow at first, then suddenly accelerated as if he had floored it, crashing it straight into the side of the dealership. The dealership gave them their money back for the car, and they sued Chevrolet for not acknowledging the problem (even AFTER the money was refunded). They settled out of court, and got even more money.

All of my friends who have ever even remotely heard of working on diesel engines will tell you the Ford V8 diesels pull more than the Cummins faster, but are in the shop far, far more often for far more problems then the Cummins. The Cummins is far more reliable.
What year Cavalier was it? That may have been a lemon car. Cavaliers were notorious with head gasket problems until 2000 and ignition switch problems through 1999 as well. They have a reputation for being hardy vehicles.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jason.w
I think you might have been an exception. My parents-in-law bought a Cavalier once, a few years before my wife went to college (about eight years ago). It would randomly accelerate when they hit the brake, and brake when they hit the gas pedal. The car did a ton of funny electrical and mechanical things that the mechanics could never diagnose or fix.

Finally, they took it back to the dealer the last time, and said (again) "Take it for a test drive." He did (again), took it around the block, came back, pulled up in front of them, and said "I can't find anything wrong with it, it drives fine." But this time, as he pulled it into the parking space and applied the brake, it started to slow at first, then suddenly accelerated as if he had floored it, crashing it straight into the side of the dealership. The dealership gave them their money back for the car, and they sued Chevrolet for not acknowledging the problem (even AFTER the money was refunded). They settled out of court, and got even more money.

All of my friends who have ever even remotely heard of working on diesel engines will tell you the Ford V8 diesels pull more than the Cummins faster, but are in the shop far, far more often for far more problems then the Cummins. The Cummins is far more reliable.
I don't like Chevy and do not like the Cavalier at all and in fact hope I never own one but I know a guy whose wife has 2 of them. A older one with mismatched body panels where someone hit it and then one probably a 2000 or so give or take and they both say how they haven't had any problems and that they last forever. Of course both of them are big Chevy fans so who knows. I know one other person with one and I don't think they have had too many issues either. I still wouldn't buy one however and think that there are much better cars out there. When it comes to cars the Japanese are light years ahead of the American vehicles. To me with trucks the Japanese ones just aren't that great because if you need a fullsize they don't really work for you. They just seem to be slightly more reliable. However, when it comes to cars they are way better and the only logical option imo.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
That's funny. My Mexican built Dodge Ram seems to be of better quality than those built in the US plants.



What year Cavalier was it? That may have been a lemon car. Cavaliers were notorious with head gasket problems until 2000 and ignition switch problems through 1999 as well. They have a reputation for being hardy vehicles.
It seems like the dashes in the mexican trucks dont crack. My truck was Hecho en Mexico, with not a single crack in the dash. 160000 miles. I recentally saw an Michigan built 2001 Ram with 85000 miles, and i counted 13 cracks in the dash.

The 2.2 4cyl engines have problems overheating which leads to the head gasket problems. I have a '99 S-10 with a 2.2 and 145,000 miles.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PURPLDODGERAMITMFERS
It seems like the dashes in the mexican trucks dont crack. My truck was Hecho en Mexico, with not a single crack in the dash. 160000 miles. I recentally saw an Michigan built 2001 Ram with 85000 miles, and i counted 13 cracks in the dash.

The 2.2 4cyl engines have problems overheating which leads to the head gasket problems. I have a '99 S-10 with a 2.2 and 145,000 miles.
Mine was built in Mexico and has had the top piece of the dash crack into many pieces. I replaced that and have many pieces cracked in the lower dash now and like where the headlight switch screws in all 3 holes are cracked stuff like that. So there goes that theory. The Dodge dashboards just suck kind of like their lsds, transmissions, and pleneum gaskets design.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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what color is your dash?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Mist Gray or whatever it is.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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My dash has cracks as well; however, they didn't appear until after I had replaced the heater core. Guess I didn't get it cinched in place properly.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hometheaterman
Mist Gray or whatever it is.
Funny, because most of the trucks i see with cracked dashes are in Mist Gray or tan. Mine is dark gray.(charcoal or agate)
 
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