97 1500 fuel rail problem PLEASE HELP!!!!
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97 1500 fuel rail problem PLEASE HELP!!!!
Someone help before I shoot myself! Got a 97 Ram 1500 5.2 2 wheel drive. Died on me yesterday. After some trouble shooting I believed it was the fuel pump.
Changed the fuel pump today, and reinstalled the fuel line into the fuel rail (got the big yellow metal clip style). Went to go start the car and it leaks/sprays like crazy from that spot where the line goes into the rail. Pulled it out and reinstalled it 5x"s and does the same thing.
Few questions, how many O rings go on the fuel line/rail intersection there 1 or 2. It seems that when I pulled the fuel line out originally there was one on the line and another popped out of the rail itself. Just seems like I only see where one of them goes. This never leaked before. Does anyone have a blown up diagram of that area?
Also yesterday the truck turned over fine, battery was good. took off both battery cables while I changed everything-overnight. Put them all back on today, cleaned the terminals and added some water to the cells...2 were kinda low. Went to start, it the sucker is dead. got enuff power to power the fuel pump and show me my new leak but not enuff to turn the motor over. What gives...Im goin crazy!
PLEASE HELP!
Changed the fuel pump today, and reinstalled the fuel line into the fuel rail (got the big yellow metal clip style). Went to go start the car and it leaks/sprays like crazy from that spot where the line goes into the rail. Pulled it out and reinstalled it 5x"s and does the same thing.
Few questions, how many O rings go on the fuel line/rail intersection there 1 or 2. It seems that when I pulled the fuel line out originally there was one on the line and another popped out of the rail itself. Just seems like I only see where one of them goes. This never leaked before. Does anyone have a blown up diagram of that area?
Also yesterday the truck turned over fine, battery was good. took off both battery cables while I changed everything-overnight. Put them all back on today, cleaned the terminals and added some water to the cells...2 were kinda low. Went to start, it the sucker is dead. got enuff power to power the fuel pump and show me my new leak but not enuff to turn the motor over. What gives...Im goin crazy!
PLEASE HELP!
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There are no O-rings where the fuel line clips to the fuel rail, there is only a quick connect (or quick disconnect, whichever you call it) fitting and a keeper on the outside.
10 to 1 you either damaged the flange on the fuel rail (you will need a new rail) or you damaged the quick connect fitting (you can get a new one at NAPA or some other parts store. IIRC the fuel line has a permanent crimp that you'l have ot cut off and attach a new quick connect fitting.
10 to 1 you either damaged the flange on the fuel rail (you will need a new rail) or you damaged the quick connect fitting (you can get a new one at NAPA or some other parts store. IIRC the fuel line has a permanent crimp that you'l have ot cut off and attach a new quick connect fitting.
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I think mine is different
I think i know what you are talking about. I know I have the quick connect type back at the fuel tank-pump.
Now at the intake mine is different than the tank side. Yes there is a metal line, that is held into the fuel rail by a large yellow metal clip that slides into a slot from the top after the line is slid into the rail then clicks into place. To remove it you must squeeze the bottom prongs together that protrude out then pry it from the top with a screwdriver. It always had a O ring.
Now at the intake mine is different than the tank side. Yes there is a metal line, that is held into the fuel rail by a large yellow metal clip that slides into a slot from the top after the line is slid into the rail then clicks into place. To remove it you must squeeze the bottom prongs together that protrude out then pry it from the top with a screwdriver. It always had a O ring.
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clip
Please dont take this the wrong way cuz i do not doubt your expertise in this area. However I know the push on clip that you are talking about and mine is 100% not it. I have been poking around the net looking at some old posts & stuff and it seems that the plastic rails with single lines (no return line & no regulator i think) from 97 & 98's use the slide in O ring line with the clip i am speaking of.
I just wish I could find a blow up diagram or someone who has seen or has the same rail/line system to tell me about the o rings.
I just wish I could find a blow up diagram or someone who has seen or has the same rail/line system to tell me about the o rings.
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Man that's weird, I've never seen one like that.
As far as O rings go here's a web site that sells the Fuel Rail O-ring kit:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
select dodge>1997>pickup1500>5.2mpi (not CNG)>fuel and then you'll see the fuel rail o-ring kit
You could probably get it at the parts store too or the dealer for not too much. Don't just use any old O-rings, they need to be made of Viton so they don't break down in the gasoline.
As far as O rings go here's a web site that sells the Fuel Rail O-ring kit:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php
select dodge>1997>pickup1500>5.2mpi (not CNG)>fuel and then you'll see the fuel rail o-ring kit
You could probably get it at the parts store too or the dealer for not too much. Don't just use any old O-rings, they need to be made of Viton so they don't break down in the gasoline.
Last edited by aim4squirrels; 01-29-2009 at 10:46 PM.
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This is the fix!!!!
Someone help before I shoot myself! Got a 97 Ram 1500 5.2 2 wheel drive. Died on me yesterday. After some trouble shooting I believed it was the fuel pump.
Changed the fuel pump today, and reinstalled the fuel line into the fuel rail (got the big yellow metal clip style). Went to go start the car and it leaks/sprays like crazy from that spot where the line goes into the rail. Pulled it out and reinstalled it 5x"s and does the same thing.
Few questions, how many O rings go on the fuel line/rail intersection there 1 or 2. It seems that when I pulled the fuel line out originally there was one on the line and another popped out of the rail itself. Just seems like I only see where one of them goes. This never leaked before. Does anyone have a blown up diagram of that area?
Also yesterday the truck turned over fine, battery was good. took off both battery cables while I changed everything-overnight. Put them all back on today, cleaned the terminals and added some water to the cells...2 were kinda low. Went to start, it the sucker is dead. got enuff power to power the fuel pump and show me my new leak but not enuff to turn the motor over. What gives...Im goin crazy!
No leaks pulled old one from.pull apart and this is exactly how it goes. No part store.coukd.help or find it.
PLEASE HELP!
Changed the fuel pump today, and reinstalled the fuel line into the fuel rail (got the big yellow metal clip style). Went to go start the car and it leaks/sprays like crazy from that spot where the line goes into the rail. Pulled it out and reinstalled it 5x"s and does the same thing.
Few questions, how many O rings go on the fuel line/rail intersection there 1 or 2. It seems that when I pulled the fuel line out originally there was one on the line and another popped out of the rail itself. Just seems like I only see where one of them goes. This never leaked before. Does anyone have a blown up diagram of that area?
Also yesterday the truck turned over fine, battery was good. took off both battery cables while I changed everything-overnight. Put them all back on today, cleaned the terminals and added some water to the cells...2 were kinda low. Went to start, it the sucker is dead. got enuff power to power the fuel pump and show me my new leak but not enuff to turn the motor over. What gives...Im goin crazy!
No leaks pulled old one from.pull apart and this is exactly how it goes. No part store.coukd.help or find it.
PLEASE HELP!