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Oil pan drain plug reamed by Jiffy Lube - '02 Ram 2500

Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TruckinDodge
It's a Cummings so the drain plug has the square hole in it instead of a bolt head. I do believe that a very large easy out might work.
Can you help me out? I don't know what that is. And yes it's a recessed square hole supposedly for a 3/8" socket wrench adapter, but I really doubt that, since even if it wasn't reamed by Jiffy Lube, it would be quite a bit larger than any adapter that I have.

Would this work and where do you think I could find it (not online)?

https://www.wescotools.com/p-6567-ha...set-10-pc.aspx
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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Nope that aint goin to help you at all. If that plug is really in there that tight, well theres a couple things you can do. Cut a slot in it, and try to get it out with a big screw driver. You can also look to find, a 3/8 adapter that is square not rounded off like most extensions. Some of your older steel adapters will be like this. Another thing is to heat that plug up. If you have a really hot heat gun, or a butane torch, or just take the thing out and get it all nice and hot. Another thing is as long as you have the dremel out, cut flat spots on the top and bottom to fit a wrench and try it that way. Good luck.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by orerockon
hello, this is my first post, and I have 2 related questions.

1. Jiffy Lube reamed my oil pan drain plug such that a 3/8" adapter will not loosen it. Furthermore, looking at the plug and the adapter, it seems too big for it anyway, even if it wasn't reamed out. My truck is a Cummings Turbo Diesel.

2. If I ever get it out, I want to replace it with the EZ drain or Finger Touch valve, but they don't seem to be the right size either. I have seen conflicting info online as to whether the 18mm plug will fit my model. Does anyone know FOR SURE that it will fit? Mo one has it locally so I will have to order it from Genos.
Have you tried telling Jiffy Lube "You screwed it up, now fix it"?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jpnorris87
Nope that aint goin to help you at all. If that plug is really in there that tight, well theres a couple things you can do. Cut a slot in it, and try to get it out with a big screw driver. You can also look to find, a 3/8 adapter that is square not rounded off like most extensions. Some of your older steel adapters will be like this. Another thing is to heat that plug up. If you have a really hot heat gun, or a butane torch, or just take the thing out and get it all nice and hot. Another thing is as long as you have the dremel out, cut flat spots on the top and bottom to fit a wrench and try it that way. Good luck.
It has a square recessed hole to fit a 3/8" socket wrench extension. There is nothing to cut a slot in, and nothing to cut flat spots on or in. I have heated it up with a torch until the rubber washer burned off and it doesn't loosen at all. I wouldn't know where to get an "old style" socket wrench extension.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Ok... now that I know what we're talking about, I can make better suggestions.
http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/filter/...ts/drain22.jpg

Judging by the fact that the plug is THAT stuck, I will assume that it is cross threaded. This means that heating it will do help at all. It also means that once you get it out, you will need to re-tap or possibly modify your oill pan in order to replace the drain plug.

Let's focus on the removing the old plug first. (I would plan to be without a truck for a few days while you get this sorted out, as a worst case scenario)

Depending on how badly the recessed hole was butchered up, I would first try using a piece of 3/8 square bar stock as your "extension". If that doesn't work, I would take a large bolt and weld it to the flange of the plug (like a 1/2 bolt or something). You can then use a regular socket on the bolt head to remove the plug.

At that point, you need to see how badly the internal threads are on the oil pan and decide if you wan to try re-tapping them, replacing the oil pan, or possibly boring out the hole to a larger diameter and then finding a larger drain plug. You could also weld an additional sleeve onto the oil pan with the same size threads in it so that you can continue to use a standard oil drain plug.

If you get really lucky, the oil pan threads will be ok and you can just replace the plug.

Bottom line is, Jiffy Lube screwed up your stuff, and they should be fixing it.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by orerockon
It has a square recessed hole to fit a 3/8" socket wrench extension. There is nothing to cut a slot in, and nothing to cut flat spots on or in. I have heated it up with a torch until the rubber washer burned off and it doesn't loosen at all. I wouldn't know where to get an "old style" socket wrench extension.
Ok, I got what you are working with. You can cut a slot in the plug itself ie. the metal surrounding the recessed hole. Or cut flat spots on the actual plug. Its time to start thinking outside the box here. You arent goin to salvage the plug and will prolly be lucky if you can salvage the pan from this point.
+1 on what Turbo is saying, but that is some last ditch efforts. Make sure if you weld on your truck you disconnect your battery cable. Dont want to fry the computer!
 
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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Sorry I haven't replied any sooner. There are a couple of ways I would do this if I had to.

1. First and best option is go buy a new drain plug and take it and the truck to Jiffy lube and get them to replace it! They mess up enough they should be used to it by now. I would even go as far as to bring my own oil and filter and have them do it free of charge.

2. Using a Dremel I would try cutting a small notch in the edge of the plug and use a chisel to tap (not pound) the plug until it was lose.

3. Cut the edges flat on 2 sides and use an adjustable wrench on it.


Warning cutting near the oil pan requires extreme caution that plug is much thicker than the plug.

Please for give my mis spellings and/or any words that are missing My mind move way to fast for my fingers.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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I like the chisel idea except I'd chisel a notch then use a REALLY BIG screwdriver (or punch) to knock it loose. Using a chisel to bang on it will just keep cutting. I can't believe you can't snap a pair of vise-grips on that thing.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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You could try getting a big ez-out for it. THen just drill in the center of it and try to back it out with that. I got a set at Mac's hardware a while back, and it contained one large enough to do the job. Otherwise you may end up having to just drill it out, chase new threads, and get a bigger plug.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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I would stay away from an easy out. If you break that thing off you are screwed. If you think the stripped plug is bad, then trying to drill out a broken EZ out would definately ruin your day.
 
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