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Old May 15, 2009 | 02:44 AM
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Last I checked, no significant amount of oil in the plenum, but the truck does ping. No sign of death flash
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 03:58 AM
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Mine didn't look like there was much oil from my broken plenum either, looked like just a trace.

Until I replaced my manifold, complete with Hughes plenum kit, and looked down into my old one with the old plate still attached. There's probably about 1/4 to 1/2 a quart of oil in there.

My point: fix it. You're pinging should stop (unless you have other small maintenance issues, such as wires/cap/rotor, or major serious engine issues), and your power and gas mileage should go up.

No sign of death flash, of course not, you have a Hypertech. That would pretty much eliminate the death flash. However, increasing your timing with it, plus a broken plenum, can definitely cause pinging.
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 04:02 AM
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By no sign of death flash I meant no sticker on the PCM. The hypertech 87 octane setting didn't really affect the amount of pinging.

How long would you say it would take a shop to change the plenum?
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 04:07 AM
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Half a day, if they are inexperienced with Dodges. And just shy of $400 if the mechanics charge a decent labor rate, not including parts. I've read some places charge $500+ for the same job.

The Hughes kit or APS kit are about $86 plus shipping. You'll need one of those to give to the mechanics.

If you have the tools and space, and a second vehicle, you can take a weekend and do it yourself. I don't have a second vehicle, the time, or the space, otherwise I would have took a crack at it.
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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ive heard the dealer wants $700
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 02:39 AM
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Just to clarify, when someone talks about "low end" its low in the RPM range like say 0-2500 RPM and not low speeds right? Whats the need to have more power in the upper RPM if you're not towing anything? Like someone said 90% of the mods seem to be for high end stuff.
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ripto
Just to clarify, when someone talks about "low end" its low in the RPM range like say 0-2500 RPM and not low speeds right? Whats the need to have more power in the upper RPM if you're not towing anything? Like someone said 90% of the mods seem to be for high end stuff.
For towing you want low end , If you want "lowend" leave the truck stock .. lowend rpm range will be from idle 550-700 rpm up to 3000 rpm. or from idle up to 6000 rpm... the best thing that can be done for lowend is gears , no fancy plugs , wires , intakes , programers ...
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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That is what I have seen on plenty of these mods, you can (and probably will) DECREASE the available torque below 3000 rpm, (read 99% of towing), which is why I have not modified my 5.9. The only real solution I have seen to increasing towing capability is to get the cummins. But after trading/selling my truck I need an additional $6-8k which buys me alot of time on the highway (that I will spend trailing behind a cummins).

Like the saying goes "speed cost money, how fast do you want to go/tow?"
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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It sounds like with the mileage you are getting, that you are running 3.55. My bone stock 01 gets 12mpg, no matter if Im pulling or empty. On the highway, I can come close to 14mpg. But, Im running 4.10's and all I have to do is floor it to leave 2 smoking black marks on the pavement. So it sounds like you need to make a decision....you cant have a ford ranger that gets 30mpg and can pull a 24ft gooseneck trailer at the same time. It seems that other than checking the plenum gasket, if you want mileage....keep your truck the same. If you want a truck with alot of get up and go, and want to hot rod it....check the plenum gasket and get you a set of 4.10's.
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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Yea JP it pretty much comes down to that. I mean since I got my motorcycle I really don't use the truck unless I HAVE to. Just doesn't seem right to see my friends 5.2's outrun this thing. And well, also if I wanna put that much more money into it.
 
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