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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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I have blown smoke intermittantly since last summer. It used to be an occasional thing maybe once a month. Lately within the past two weeks it seems almost daily. Of course since I had an opertunity to steal my brothers camera this morning... it didn't blow as much smoke as usual. I can't seem to see any oil consumption (still at max on dipstick) although it is possible. I have checked the plenum a few times before already and there is no pooling. I haven't touched the coolant level since last year and it still checks out. Here is what I am dealing with. (sorry for the length of video)

http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=100_0379.flv
 

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Rings. Valve seals.

I like where your exhaust comes out at. Can you get more pics of the setup?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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I would guess that it is just the seals which can go out or damage somewhat by running the motor overheated. This occurs because the oil on top of the heads leak down the valve stem overnight into the cylinder causing the smoke which burn off at start up. A way to tell is to spin the engine over and check the compression in the cylinders, then do it again with a small amount of oil in them. If the compression builds up in any cylinder, then it would be the rings in that cylinder, if it doesn't, then it would be the valve seals. I wouldn't worry about that little smoke, but you can always get them changed at most mech shops. A tip from me to you, in the future, use a 185 or lower thermostat and don't let the temp go over 210 degrees. Some cars ran at that temp and with those hot temps causing rubber valve seals and gaskets to go out sooner than if running 185 degrees. Nice truck
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Deff a seal problem. You can add chevron engine restore, and that will buy you some time before you tear the heads off to fix it. Keep in mind that engine restore is only a temporary fix against this type of problem.
 
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Rings. Valve seals.

I like where your exhaust comes out at. Can you get more pics of the setup?
Yo purple mine and his come out in the same place I have some picks up. Plenum?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Yo purple mine and his come out in the same place I have some picks up. Plenum?
Clarify...... Please
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Laramie1997
Clarify...... Please
Could it be the plate that sits on the bottom of the keg?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PurplDodge
Rings. Valve seals.

I like where your exhaust comes out at. Can you get more pics of the setup?
As requested, here you go. Please excuse the tip as I hadn't had a chance to clean it until after I took the pics lol. I took them so I wouldn't forget and finished cleaning up the truck.

http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/p...gre90/Exhaust/

The silver coating is VHT 2000 degree paint which I had to cure on the pipe. I wanted something to coat the pipes since my last set of alum/steel pipes rusted out in less than two years. While it may not look that pretty, so far its doing its job, I figure ill throw another coat on down the road after the new muffler burns the black paint off that came on it.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Laramie1997
Deff a seal problem. You can add chevron engine restore, and that will buy you some time before you tear the heads off to fix it. Keep in mind that engine restore is only a temporary fix against this type of problem.
Good idea, but you don't have to pull the heads off to change the seals, they can change them on and in place with the right tools. However, it looks problematic enough just to get the valve covers off in a dodge truck as it is. I have an 09, first Dodge truck since 1980, and I've been staring mine down wondering how in the hell I'm going to get to em myself. I was thinking of installing a cam, but it looks pretty tight in there, lol.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1954Radio
Good idea, but you don't have to pull the heads off to change the seals, they can change them on and in place with the right tools. However, it looks problematic enough just to get the valve covers off in a dodge truck as it is. I have an 09, first Dodge truck since 1980, and I've been staring mine down wondering how in the hell I'm going to get to em myself. I was thinking of installing a cam, but it looks pretty tight in there, lol.
I know what you mean. I look at all new vehicles, and with the exception of the 6.7 cummins, I just shake my head wondering how in the hell anyone can get into one to work on it. To make it truly sad, I know that most shops when working on a 2003-2009 Ford powerstroke, many will opt to remove the cab of the truck for engine work. Its too cramped under the hood to do any kind of work, and it is quicker to pull the cab instead of the motor....
Any ways back on topic....
 
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