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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Dodger, I would bet that you have managed to pop the amps. See if you can isolate the speaker wires colors coming from the back of the harness to those amps and see if you can go around them. Ideally, I would tell you to just run all new wire, but if you can chop into it and make it work, then that will tell you what the problem is/was.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Since I already changed the H/U and it didn't make a difference, I guess checking the speakers in the front door is next. I read in other threads that there is an amp at each speaker. Is that true?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Only on vehicles equipped with the optional Infinity Premium Sound System, an indicator of which is the pillar tweeters.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Thanks much. I appreciate the help. Have a good day/night.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Miami son how exactly are you disagreeing with me?.... I was always under the impression a car stereo was designed for the industry standard 4 ohm car speaker .thats what the power output is rated as is a 4 ohm load... running a lower ohm load on a amplifier whether it be an external or HU amp will increase the heat (and power to each speaker) generated by the amp... this is a pretty commonly known thing..... when I dropped my ohm load to a half an ohm by wiring my 2 dual voice coil speakers in parallel and then again in parallel and bridged my amp to one channel that put a 1/2 ohm load on the amp and it runs soo hot now I needed to add cooling fans to assist in keeping it from overheating...(the audio art amp is only 1 ohm stable bridged.)
Thats one of the things that effect price on an amp....the ability to be stable at lower ohm loads. my orion hcca is a two channel amp thats only 25 watts rms but when I bridge it and run it in a 1/2 ohm load configuration its actually outputting close to 400 watts rms to each of the 4 voice coils..this allows one to compete in a lower power class while actually having a greater power output. Most run of the mill amps are only two ohm stable and when you brige them they are 4 ohm stable....cheaper amps are less efficient and the power increase is less when cutting the ohm load.
"Using a 2 ohm speaker on a system designed for 4 ohms will result in a slight increase in decibel level at a given volume setting, but you run the risk of speaker damage from overdriving it"
this is the same thing I was saying except on higher quality amps cutting the ohms load in half actually doubles the power output of the amp in theory.... when I said the sound quality isnt as good in this configuration thats because thats what I read in one of my car stereo installation books....just checked it again. I cant speak from personal experience on that as I've never noticed it myself.
 

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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I'm disagreeing with you on semantics more than anything else. Resistance creates heat, so higher resistance means more heat and amp overload. Most home audio systems are designed for 8 ohm speaker loads. Car stereo is more towards 4 ohms except in the case of subwoofers, which are either 2 or 4 ohms. A 4 ohm system can usually handle a 2 ohm speaker just fine, but the problem comes in when that 2 ohm speaker is designed primarily for low frequencies and the user then boosts the output level to compensate for the amplifier's inability to provide a decibel level to their liking. Now, the amplifier is being asked to do more than it can handle, but it isn't overheating solely because of the use of 2 ohm speakers. Like I said, the important thing is to match your speakers to your system. Any claims as far as power handling and frequency response are based on this. Mixing components is always a recipe for failure of something, regardless what the specific reason might be. Heat, whatever the cause, can destroy an amp, but even moderate heat that doesn't damage an amp can cause a reduction in efficiency and sound quality.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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thats why some amps rate different distortion levels at different ohm loads...(THD%)'and subwoofers come in 2,4 and 8 ohm load configurations because many are designed to be used in different wiring schemes to manipulate the ohm load to the amp....
for example 8 ohm subwoofers are usually installed as 2 woofers wired in a parallel to put a 4 ohm load on the amp and 2 ohm woofers are designed to be wired in a series to put a 4 ohm load on the amp....and usually dual voice coil woofers are sold in 8 or 2 ohm coil setups I actually made a mistake above and said mine were wired in a series...
this site explains it better than I can for anyone reading this who wants to understand better...
http://www.termpro.com/articles/spkrz.html
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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To bump back this thread from a while back...

I replaced my stock head unit (with a working stocker off ebay for $10)

No luck, my front two speakers still have no sound. When I get back home in a couple weeks I'm going to take the speakers out and test them. Perhaps they're just blown, I suppose I'm just surprised that both speakers don't utter a sound...


also to note: I do not have the premium sound package

edit: Would likely replace with these - http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-6-5...pr_product_top (unless going 6x9s are worth it..)
 

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bobboraze
To bump back this thread from a while back...

I replaced my stock head unit (with a working stocker off ebay for $10)

No luck, my front two speakers still have no sound. When I get back home in a couple weeks I'm going to take the speakers out and test them. Perhaps they're just blown, I suppose I'm just surprised that both speakers don't utter a sound...


also to note: I do not have the premium sound package

edit: Would likely replace with these - http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-6-5...pr_product_top (unless going 6x9s are worth it..)
when I bought my truck one of the front speakers was blown and made no noise...they are the cheapest tiny magnet 15watt speakers I have every seen btw.....I replaced them with some cheap aftermarket 280watt 3 way 6x9's along with a new hu and two amps (one for sub and one for highs/mids....sounds great but I still want to get cleaner sounding 6x9's and install the sound insulation I bought soon...I put 6.5 in the rear with minor modifications and IMHO you are better off just using 6x9's in the doors as the holes are for them and you have to seal the holes or else the bass will cancel itself out... plus 6x9's are a better value as more robust 6x9's are cheaper than a 6.5 built as well... of course if you are using the factory hu than you really want the lowest wattage speaker you can find...they will sound better because the lower wattage can drive them more effectivly.
 

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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Just adding to the information here. I have a 2000 with the AM/FM/CD/TAPE unit. At one point the drivers side front went out, then the passenger side front. I still have a very "basey" rear on both. The front speakers pass a continuity test but before I can say absolutely they're ok I need to run some sound to them. (They could be shorted.) It sounds from all that is said here that the output amps have fried. I guess if that's the case I need to decide on a used oem or aftermarket. The truck is older but runs great, and aside from the radio, and the shattered eggshell dashboard it does fine...........
 
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