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Old 10-21-2009, 08:19 AM
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I have a 2001 1500 4x4 with the 5.9l V8 with 171000 miles. I am not too familer with the automatic transmission and mine is giving me some problems so any help would be wounderful. When the tranny is cold it dosen't engage in gear or it will engage for a few seconds and then come out. My other problem is that it shutters at random times and intervels form mid to higher speeds like 40 to 70. I have plenty of fluid but im not sure how old it is because I just bought the truck about a month ago. Again any help would be wonderful, thanks.
 
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the 2nd gens dont have a powerful reputation with the trannys. look on the forums and you'll find many topics about this.

You know you check the Trans fluid when in neutral right?


as for your problem it sounds like the torque convertor, and do you know if the previous owner put in ATF+4? because ATF3 can damage the transmission
 
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:29 PM
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I would LOOVE to hear how +3 can damage our tranny's. I'm still running +3 with no problems!!! Next filter change I'm gonna upgrade but only because +4 is out now.
 
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when i went to the dealership (because i heard they take special fluid) they told me to only use ATF4 that the 3 can hurt the trans.

You may be right, im just going with what the dealer told me
 
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 95RAM360
when i went to the dealership (because i heard they take special fluid) they told me to only use ATF4 that the 3 can hurt the trans.

You may be right, im just going with what the dealer told me
Yeah, we all know how honest stealerships are. I'm not saying I'm Mr right, I'm just trying to point out to people to question things and verify for themselves what they hear so they don't get suckered into buying something they don't need.
 
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 95RAM360
when i went to the dealership (because i heard they take special fluid) they told me to only use ATF4 that the 3 can hurt the trans.

You may be right, im just going with what the dealer told me
WHoever told you that is a total dumbass. Your's, mine, and many other trucks came off the assembly line in Mexico and Missouri with ATF+3 in the trans. ATF+4/Type 9602 was introduced in 2001 and is compatible with all ATF+'s that it replaced. ATF+3 will not hurt your trans, but since it is not made anymore, you can only use ATF+4.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/fluids.html
 

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Old 10-21-2009, 07:25 PM
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Shuddering can be caused by any number of things, including:

*Failing tranny mount
*Failing drivertain ujoint[s]
*Weakened motor mount[s]
*Busted belt in tire[s]
*Improperly torqued tire lugs
*Worn ball joints, and other suspension components

If it happens only at certain speeds, I would lean towards a busted belt, or ujoints.
They can both be fine at certain speeds, but once they reach a specific RPM range, that triggers a wobble.
This further weakens them, and eventually they will fail completely, leaving you stranded on the road, or worse.

Better get that taken care of ASAP, when any of the above completely fail on the road, bad things happen.
Depending on your skill level, you should be able to eliminate all but the last from being the cause, or in fact being the culprit, of the shuddering.
Busted belts can be dicey to diagnose, they can easily hide from all but the most skilled of eyes, unless they are far gone and exhibit an obvious bulge [which can be hiding on the backside of the tire].
You need to have them off the ground spinning, looking head on for any noticeable wobble.
If your not well versed in suspension, take it in to a reputable alignment outfit, most will refuse to do an alignment if you have components which need repair/replacing, and they will tell you exactly what needs to be fixed.

But the lugs, tranny/motor mounts and ujoints you should inspect yourself, and determine if they are up to snuff.
 

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They went to ATF+4 because of a shuttering issue with the TC Clutch. It has an additive that addresses that. I understand that aftermarket converters and clutches don't necessarily need the ATF+4 but being that it is a synthetic it is still recommended. Some tranny specialist have used the latest and greatest Dexron product with some success.
 
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Originally Posted by dodgeit105
they went to atf+4 because of a shuttering issue with the tc clutch. It has an additive that addresses that. I understand that aftermarket converters and clutches don't necessarily need the atf+4 but being that it is a synthetic it is still recommended. Some tranny specialist have used the latest and greatest dexron product with some success.
listen up good when i say this...and purpl will back me up on this!!! Don't EEEEEVER USE DEXRON IN A DODGE TRANNY. Regaurdless if a "mechanic" says, if you "mix it with an additive it is equivalent to +4. If you remember just one thing i say. Let it be that!!!
 

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Old 10-21-2009, 10:17 PM
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amen.. if they tell you theirs some additive they can add to it to make it like atf4 run dont walk run from them run.... i dont even like using the fluids from the parts store i usally get it from the stealership... but atf4 though from the pats store shouldnt be that bad...
 


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