miami, u know i was always jealous i never got the "welcome to DF" from you.. can you still do it pwease lol
and i always liked reading your posts, to me, or some one else. i always learned. im 19 yrs old. and you guys are probly 50 and been around the block 6 and a half times. so its always cool to see the theories and facts you throw out there. thanks man. only been here like 3 weeks and learned countless stuff from ya! hopefully you stick around a bit

 

Sorry to see you go Rick, Ive been reading on this forum since I bout my truck a year and a half ago, and started getting kinda active more recently. Ive read probably every post on here, and I agree, some people might have thought you were harsh, but youd think adults could handle that. Never saw you ask more than what was reasonable from anyone. I wish you luck, and hope to find you on another forum someday, your an informative guy who knows his crap, a rarity anymore. But Good Bye for now.

 

no matter how we handle demodding someone, they are always pissed off. there is no "gentle" way to do it, and if we hurt your feelings, although I wasnt involved in making you a mod or demodding you, I will personally apologize.

Being a moderator is not for everyone. it was the consensus of the staff that some of your recent actions were not something that needed to be said/done by a member of the staff. hell, we get TONS of complaints about mods "doing their jobs" and in every case we go to the mod and say "you have to throttle it back". sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt and when it does not we have to decide whether or not that person needs to be a mod here. also, the staff has to be able to work as a unit to some extent and when someone doesnt "fit" with the group it does more harm than good.

miami, again I apologize that you feel you were mistreated but in the long run when we remove someone from a mod position there are ALWAYS sour grapes. people always, always feel slighted by being removed and there is never an easy way out of it. i imagine that like most demodded members you will come back and tell me that im a worthless piece of **** and honestly, im used to that because when running 40+ forums and regularly demodding people, I hear it often.

Just because you didnt work out as a mod is not a reason, in my opinion, for you to leave the forum but if you decide to do so, I thank you for your time spent here and hope the best for you and yours in the future. Sorry that it had to end like this but unfortunately it usually does.

that being said, onto a different topic. if i catch members bashing new members for asking stupid questions, I will ban you for at least a week. period. we were all new members once and we all asked questions that "everyone knew" at some point. the point of this forum is to help people work on/mod their vehicles and everyone starts somewhere. being complete ********* to someone who just bought their first new ram and they dont know anything about them...what good does that do? it just makes you look like an *******. im aware that we have quite a few members here that are ok with being ******** but its not ok with me and if i see people doing anything to put down new members because they simply dont know something, ill ban you myself. thats why they are here..to learn. not to be told to "use the search" or listen to comments about how some people are sick of answering the same question over and over. there are always going to be those same questions over and over...if you dont like answering those questions and helping other dodge owners, then leave.

 

Totally agree Pat.

What about the truth that just a few days ago, you did another mod move that was pretty rude... there was a discussion after that in that thread and else where. There have been other discussions like that.

Maybe it wasn't handled correctly, but no one wanted to embarrass you. We didn't announce "Miami is done" or anything like that. Please don't be mad at the whole staff. It's no reason to leave. I might have stepped up and said something to you, but even I didn't have a part in "relieving" you.

 

 

Strat, while I wasn't happy about being "demoded," the majority of my displeasure is with how it was handled. Despite your mea culpa, there is a gentle way to do it. Had someone come to me in advance and told me about the decision, I could have gracefully told the forum without being made to look like an ***. I could have easily said I was stepping down voluntarily for one personal reason or another instead of how it was done, which was basically a firing squad in open public. I was denied the ability to save face and not be made a fool of.

I admit that since my dad's death last month I might have been a little testy, but did anyone stop to consider that? I know you all knew about it because we discussed it in the Mod's Forum, remember? And I was never rude to any newbie unless asking them to fill out their profile info or advising them about the search function is considered rude. In all the other forums I mod in they know that while newbs keep the numbers up and please advertisers, unless you keep a core group of regulars interested in coming back, the forum dies or goes stale. For the past 6 months that I've been modding 2nd Gen Ram has been one of the most active forums on DF. Not just because of my efforts, but because there is a camaraderie here that is exhibited by the overwhelming responses you see in this very thread. When the regulars get tired of seeing the same type of behavior from newb after newb, and the same tired subjects being asked about, they lose interest. These are the people that need to stay interested because they are often the ones best capable of answering the questions that newbs have. And when you have a bunch of Stickies and a FAQ subforum with answers to many of the routine questions, what is wrong with expecting them to at least take a look at them first?

I'm tired of having to defend myself. Nothing you or anyone else in charge says will make me feel better about the way this was handled or change the fact that it was a crude and cowardly way to do it. I've never had any issues with you and I do appreciate you taking the time to try and explain, but nothing will change the ugly reality of the situation. It didn't need to go this way.

 

I appreciate the "kind" words said about me elsewhere... and how I had everything to do with this... When the TRUTH is that a group of high up mods and admin made this decision... WITHOUT me... completely...

Just because I stood up and said what everyone else was thinking, doesn't mean I demodded you. Way to jump to conclusions. I kinda felt sorry for you... a liiiiiiittttlllleee bit, but not after I read what was said about me. It was the perfect example of why you got demodded. Say what you want over the internet. I won't resort to the childish name calling like you.

 

Now I would like to know what in that post welcoming Jason was so offensive to you? Did I say we chose to de-mod you?

Maybe I coulda handled it a little better as to not heart your feelings, just as you've tried so painstakingly to not hurt the feelings of any newbies who made the unfortunate mistake of asking for help in your section.

I had no idea you were such a sensitive guy. I whole heartily apologize...


Oh and btw, this post was made by me a good 2 hours after I PMd you with our decision and I confirmed you read it....

 

Let's talk about that "mod move," shall we? I closed a thread that was not only off topic, but about a competing vehicle brand. How rude is it to come into a place named Dodge Forum looking for help with your Ford? On a comparative level, I think most would say the poster's rudeness surpassed mine. My concern with the thread was not only that it had no place being here, but that it would quickly escalate into a flamefest for exactly the reason I found it inappropriate. The 2nd Gen Ram owners are a pretty faithful and fervent bunch and someone was bound to take issue with it. I didn't think to move it to the Off ZTopic forum because, again, as this is Dodge Forum I didn't think it was appropriate anywhere on here. So, who is more rude, the guy who starts a thread on his Ford in Dodge Forum instead of on one of the many available Ford forums easily found with google, or the mod who took issue with it?

That thread is a perfect example of the misguided thinking some of you admins have. You think it is better to appease one wayward member with little common sense rather than risk alienating him. I didn't, because the hundreds of other members who make up this great forum deserve better. They know this is Dodge Forum, the "Dodge Enthusiast Community," not Ford or Chevy Forum. Some of you appear to have forgotten that in favor of just adding more warm bodies to the mix. That mentality does a disservice to everyone that invests their time into these forums.

 

how did this make you look like a butt?



you would rather have lied to us also?