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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 98formulaLS1
if my timing is off, by a significant amount, how could that happen?
I would imagine a bad PCM since it's controlled by the PCM.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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i think maybe my crankshaft sensor could be bad or the cable might have gotten nicked when my trans was recently replaced.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
Get the timing checked. My truck runs hot and I was pulling my hair out trying to understand *WHY* even though I had rebuilt the engine, had a new radiator and installed a rebuilt and then new water pump. I went through two thermostats (stock) that both tested fine in a pot of hot water. The so-called "advice" people gave me was to go with a cooler thermostat which isn't going to solve the issue of running hot. I finally had the timing checked and discovered it's 9.7º advanced. Now that I know the problem I have to get a reprogrammed PCM.
How would bad timing cause an over heat? I have never heard of that before until just know.

You have piqued my interest.
 

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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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"The PCM adjusts ignition timing based on inputs it
receives from:
† The engine coolant temperature sensor
† The crankshaft position sensor (engine speed)
† The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor
† The throttle position sensor
† Transmission gear selection"

so, i'll check my timing. If it's off, I'll check these sensors. I think the chances of the PCM going bad is a lottttt less than these rinky dinky sensors.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 98formulaLS1
"The PCM adjusts ignition timing based on inputs it
receives from:
† The engine coolant temperature sensor
† The crankshaft position sensor (engine speed)
† The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor
† The throttle position sensor
† Transmission gear selection"

so, i'll check my timing. If it's off, I'll check these sensors. I think the chances of the PCM going bad is a lottttt less than these rinky dinky sensors.
That makes me think that the timing was off because of one or more of those systems failed, not the other way around.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JackJ
How would bad timing cause an over heat? I have never heard of that before until just know.

You have piqued my interest.
Holy crap! I thought *I* was the only person who knew that word and how to use it properly I'll have to look up the specifics on why advanced timing will cause the engine to run hot.

Originally Posted by JackJ
That makes me think that the timing was off because of one or more of those systems failed, not the other way around.
Yes, I'm wondering if I have a bad coolant sensor considering that some days the temp gauge is OK and then others she's hot, causing it to run hot and boil.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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lol you've convinced me to replace all those sensors after my next couple projects.

good info.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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what should my ignition timing be on a 96 5.2L auto? I couldn't find it in the service manual
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 98formulaLS1
what should my ignition timing be on a 96 5.2L auto? I couldn't find it in the service manual

You won't find it because it can only be checked with a DRB scan tool.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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Well why not? What will I be reading with my timing light then at idle?
 
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