Nah, I've already done it...Except I havent posted it up and it doesnt apply to our trucks, but on a '47 Ford 9N. Hey look everybody, Its Dr. Nick!

 

Wow, the plugs I pulled out of a 1954 Ford sitting in a forest, filled with water were not that bad.

 

Might get a compression tester on that #8 since all of them are already out.

 

Glad she's running well.

 

Yeah, Five0 sells the epoxy ones. Mine are medtal bodied. The older ones. the PN for the metal ones is: 280 150 947

The PN for the epoxy ones is: 280 155 715 (The ad states GENERATION III)
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/domes...rs/?itemid=297

You can see that Five0 states that the metal body is no longer in production. They changed the ad to reflect that but kept the old picture. Also, the price has stayed the same.
EDIT: Here are the new epoxy ones. They messed up the PN it replaces and put a "0" at the fronthttp://www.fiveomotorsport.com/fuel-...rs/?itemid=144


Seems like a great deal to me. But i would like to see them flow side by side. The video AIM posted shows the GENIII really atomizing well, but they were yellow injectors. I think they were 22lb/hr injectors. THe blue tops are 24 lb/hr at 43.5psi (25.5 at 49 PSI like our trucks)

 

You've also got the older ones as I suspected. Are you positive that your injectors have multi-pattern (4-hole) tip?

It is my understanding that Bosch did not make those versions until post 947s.

And, further, the 947s were being phased out altogether at the end of 2009 while being replaced by the composite body types.

Anyway,

As long as the impedance matches up to what the PCM controller CKT requires, they will work. Speaking of that, there was an issue where, the injector was over-riding the PCM. It was a Bosch injector too that was really causing an issue at the PCM injector driver CKT where, it wasn't able to control the flow rate thus requiring a swap out to another injector. I know Siemens never had an issue with that but, I do recall reading about it at the time when we were modding the programming to accommodate for mine.

CM

 

I am positive. I looked at them myself. If you don't believe me I will pay 1st class airfare for you to come down and look for yourself (if they are 4 hole, you have to repay me). They are the orange tip ones. I bought them in 2008. The 947 replacements are disc and have a different nozzle, but the same hole pattern.

However, I have seen (personally) blue tops with F1TE D5A written on the sides (very old Bosch 24s) and F1TE D9A written on the sides (ones I bought in 2008). I think the D5A were not 4 hole. I had those on my 5.2 and had to replace them when i had a fire in my engine. Bruce at 50 told me that the D9A replaced the D5A.

It seems that injectors get replaced every 5 years or so.

 

I was just asking. I wasn't discrediting you. I was just double-checking if you were sure. Such is the case, so, I will take note that Bosch made two different versions of those. Now, the question is: were those reman / rebuilds or brand new Bosch injectors?

Mine were new and were oh, I think 800.00 for a set- somewhere in there.

CM

 

mine were new as well, at least that's what Bruce told me. I paid 336 for them, after talking him down from 369. He told me that they were brand new. I was asking for the ones that F1TE D5A on the opposite side of the PN side. He told me that they were discontinued, and the new ones were F1TE D9A and were the "same".

But I am thinking they were remans. The good thing is that i have never had any problems with them so I am probably lucky there. I bought them in May 2008.

Maybe bruce hooked me up with the good ones because he felt sorry for me. I needed new injectors because I had a fire in my engine compartment.

I know you were not trying to discredit me. I actually feel pretty good because I have the feeling that my injectors are one of a kind.

 

Those injectors are not new OEM- I can tell right off that those are rebuilds. I'll tell you a quick story. I ordered a set of those from him oh, not too long ago and, as soon as I took one look (just like I did at yours) I could tell that they are re-builds. I don't care what he told you- he also told me the same damn thing- they are new. I even asked him five times via email- "oh yeah, these are new". Now, in being polite here, I don't want to rant anymore about this, but, Bosch OEM finish is a baked on finish that is SUPER SOLVENT resistant meaning, I can take brake cleaner and Acetone (strong solvents) and wipe them down and the finish remains in tact. Also, it's got a sheen to the finish- semi-gloss that cleans up well.

On those that I got, just the fuel additives alone plus a special blend of gas that we were testing out, ruined the finish during removal of the injectors from the fuel rails. So, I'm positive that they are rebuilds.

I want you to take a look at yours if you would. If they are in the truck, take a small mirror and place it underneath the terminal section that meets the body. If you see evidence of OVERSPRAY on the BLUE TOP- those were refinished. I could see the masking marks where it was masked off on mine.

IN OEM, the body is finished in either a powder coat, clear coat, anodized or Chem-film. It's also performed on ONLY the metal housing / case. Then, they are stuffed and tested. In my experience, no one stuffs them and finishes them afterward. This causes overspray on the tops which, looks unprofessional - like someone out in the garage.

I don't know about you but, I notice fine details like that. Not that it's a problem- it's just a finish but, this is how I can tell a reman from OEM.

I prefer OEM to be honest. Now, a deal is a deal and, if one is selling REAL OEM injectors for a good price, so be it- buy them. But, I've never seen anyone selling them for 300.00 for eight as everyone I've seen charges 100.00 a pop.

CM