we are not really planning it for power but probly would try to build it a little before installing

 

If you go diesel, screw the automatics. Put a NV5600 behind that beast.

Just remember, you will have to COMPLETLEY re-wire your truck. Putting an engine from an era when computer control was nowhere in sight, to a truck that is almost completely computer controlled is gonna be hard.

 

Even on the second gens, the PCM really didn't do overmuch with der diesel. Sure, the dash gauges are all PCM controlled, but, simply getting a PCM and wire harness for a diesel equiped truck should be adequate to the task. If its a manual trans, so much the easier. If it is automatic, well, that makes it a bit more fun. Need the trans, wiring harness, and pcm out of the donor vehicle in that case. (which will have to be a pretty close year match to the truck it is going in, or else you need even MORE parts....)

Are the motor mounts for the older oil burners in the right spot?

 

o and the diesel is not intercooled.

 

what are you talking about? old diesel engines are so simple. i think it only takes 3 wires to start and run one.

from what i have read, with a lock up torque converter and a transmission with over drive an old 12 valve could be more fuel efficient than most new diesels.

 

well we might do the 5 speed then. the electrical stuff is the only thing im worried about. IS this not going to be something we can just get a flash for?

 

Yeah, in 1989, the diesels and the trucks around them were very simple. But the 2001 model truck he is planning to put it in isnt.

 

Diesel won't bolt to the trans in the truck now. And the two wheel drive won't bolt to the transfer case. You need to figger out what ya wanna do about a tranny, and then start searching for electrical parts. The same PCM 'might' work for the diesel..... but, that also depends on what year the truck is that its going into..... 94 or 95, and you can't flash the PCM. (they don't do that trick) even 96 or 97 will be questionable..... So far, Hemifever is the only one I know that writes tunes for the older style OBDII, and I don't remember ever seeing anything mentioned about diesels.......

If you can find a second gen, doesn't really matter what year, (so long as it has the 12v diesel.... think that changed in 98?) that the engine is blown, or whathaveyou, totaled in some fashion or other, that you can strip the parts you need from, that would be your best bet.

Second choice would be locate the parts from a diesel the same year as your friends truck, get the PCM, Wiring harness, and trans. (must also be four wheel drive, if you friends truck is 4x4.) Might also need the radiator.... don't know on that..... plus numerous other little parts I am forgetting.

 

ok thanks guys well check into it and shout back at ya. we might just try to find a older truck to put the cummins in. the donor truck is just sittting there waiting to be created into something we will just figure out what.

 

he can use the sensors that came with the 1500 he plans on using and just wire the 3 wires in. you could have them as toggle switches and push buttons if you wanted or you could hook them into ignition power.

i know someone that stuck a 12 valve cummins diesel in his 95 ford f150. he just sliced into existing wires just had to add a button for glow plugs. you just need to power the pump, glow plugs and starter and you are ready to drive down the road.