Time for new tires want some input
FIY, Cooper bought out Mickey Thompson/Dick Cepek about two or three years ago and the Cooper truck tires that have debuted over about the last two years have been designed by the MT/DC engineers who went over with the acquisition. So a few of the Coopers bear consideration as well...
i run the nitto terra grapler that has all the grip i need. buddy with the cummins 03 quad cab running the same tires but heavier load raiting(I think E). was in the woods dragging out a 4500 top kick flatbed with a caddy on it stuck in the mud. that thing was buried to the frame almost. i would buy another set in a heartbeat. not that bad on noise, only down side wet pavement. spin the tires almost as bad as light snow or ice.
i run the nitto terra grapler that has all the grip i need. buddy with the cummins 03 quad cab running the same tires but heavier load raiting(I think E). was in the woods dragging out a 4500 top kick flatbed with a caddy on it stuck in the mud. that thing was buried to the frame almost. i would buy another set in a heartbeat. not that bad on noise, only down side wet pavement. spin the tires almost as bad as light snow or ice.
I have the Terra Grapplers on my Grand Cherokee (Overland 4x4 edition) and I find that they are very quiet on pavement like you do. BUT I find them to be a very good trail tire, given it's dry or has only shallow mud. They tend to be very good on the red clay Georgia roads after a rain, where the clay can be as slick as driving on ice up north but where it's only the surface is gooey and slick. But I find they tend to cake up pretty fast if the mud is only marginally deep and don't even compare to the FCIIs on my truck in the thick/deep stuff (and my FCIIs are really a M/T - A/T hybrid, there are a LOT more aggressive mud tires out there).
I also find (and most reviews agree with me) that they are an awesome tire on wet pavement and in standing water. Very heavy siping seems to grip wet concrete like velcro on those days when we get monsoon type rains in my normal driving in south Georgia and the east coast of Florida. I really can't even spin them when I want to on wet roads, but then again, different vehicle, vastly different weight and my Overland has automatic lockers front and rear which could make all the difference in the way I find the tire to behave on wet pavement and the way you do.
Also interesting to me are the posts about the Goodyear Duratracs in this thread (and elsewhere). It's stated that a guy with them on a 3500 loves them, yet I read time and again how this tire has a very weak sidewall (even in an E range tire) and guys all over the 'net on various forums complain of sidewall failures on heavier trucks, especially when hauling/towing. A favorite tire of a LOT of Wrangler owners, but again, light vehicle especially compared to a 2500/3500 diesel.
Also, I've never had a set of re-treads, BUT I've been in two vehicles that had tread separations and blow-outs that had re-treads on them. Yet, many guys buy them for the low cost, run them hard even off-road and have no issues.
I've also had TERRIBLE luck with both sets of BFGs I had on two different 4x4 trucks I've owned, from bad cupping to sidewall bubbles and just plain fast/uneven wear. I had a set of BFG A/Ts on a Ford diesel I had in the early '90s and they were terrible, all of the above issues. Tire shop kept blaming the truck, but when I replaced them with my first set of Mickey Thompson tires, the problems went away WITHOUT making any changes to the truck! But yet again, so many guys swear by their BFG tires.
Tires are the most difficult decision there is to make IMO, because so many people find the exact same tire to behave so differently for them. Just when you think you settle on one you are gonna buy because you read a dozen or so great reviews, you can go look elsewhere and read just as many **** poor reviews on the same tire...
Last edited by HammerZ71; Jul 22, 2011 at 10:02 AM.
I use a brand made by cooper for a chain called les schwab. they last pretty good got almost 50k on the set, the rears will need replacing soon but that's from never rotating and a heavy foot from a stop at times.



