adjustable track bar
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You will only need drop sway bar brackets if the suspension lift is > 3".
The idea about the drop brackets, as most SLs advertise, is to maintain stock driving condition. Therefore its cheaper and easier to just geometrically drop the sway bar. The links are quite small in diameter. So the high price for the adjustables....you'll notice are much larger in size relative to the stock ones.
I'd much prefer dealywingers on anything though as they are the end-all-be-all whatchamacallit all-rounders. :P
The idea about the drop brackets, as most SLs advertise, is to maintain stock driving condition. Therefore its cheaper and easier to just geometrically drop the sway bar. The links are quite small in diameter. So the high price for the adjustables....you'll notice are much larger in size relative to the stock ones.
I'd much prefer dealywingers on anything though as they are the end-all-be-all whatchamacallit all-rounders. :P
#12
With your 3" spacer...iirc that isn't a true 3". Spacers thickness is ratioed. Or maybe only certain companies did that. Point being is to get the right length for that Tbar so maybe you can have a trusted alignment shop measure for you the proper length....? (e.g., centered axle)
Where it gets tricky: With IFS the spindles are mounted on the outermost edge of the A arms, while the springs/struts/coilovers etc are not. So, If you had an 18" A arm, and the struts were mounted 12" from the frame (6" inboard of the spindles), a spacer designed for 3" of lift would be 2" thick. That's all very simple nice neat numbers, but you get the idea.
I hope.
#13
In a solid axled, coil sprung front end, a 3" spacer gives you 3" of lift. With leaf springs, lengthening ONE side (either shackle or fixed hanger) by three inches nets 1.5 inches of lift (assuming axle is mounted dead center of the spring). lengthening both by 3" will net 3" of lift.
Where it gets tricky: With IFS the spindles are mounted on the outermost edge of the A arms, while the springs/struts/coilovers etc are not. So, If you had an 18" A arm, and the struts were mounted 12" from the frame (6" inboard of the spindles), a spacer designed for 3" of lift would be 2" thick. That's all very simple nice neat numbers, but you get the idea.
I hope.
Where it gets tricky: With IFS the spindles are mounted on the outermost edge of the A arms, while the springs/struts/coilovers etc are not. So, If you had an 18" A arm, and the struts were mounted 12" from the frame (6" inboard of the spindles), a spacer designed for 3" of lift would be 2" thick. That's all very simple nice neat numbers, but you get the idea.
I hope.
1. By the OPs sig, we can all tell its presumably a coil suspension, not to mention what is stated.
2. Don't care about leafs.
3. Definitely don't care about IFS.
4. To quote from Hell Bent Steel about their spacers (not saying its true for other companies, but b/c of geometry they would be similar).
I just received the 2" (or 2.5") Dodge Ram leveling kit for the 2006-2011 Ram 1500, Why doesn't the spacer measure 2" (or 2.5") tall?
The ratio of lift to spacer thickness is not one to one. Due to the design of the independent suspension of the truck, when you extend the strut by 1-1/4" (for 2" lift) or 1-3/8"; (for 2.5" lift) the angle of the strut becomes steeper allowing the truck to experience approximately 2" or 2.5” of lift, respectively. It is the combination of extending the strut and the change in angle that gives the full lift. Once the leveling kit is properly installed and you have the truck aligned, you will see the lift you expect. Remember that the installation is not complete until you have the truck aligned.
The ratio of lift to spacer thickness is not one to one. Due to the design of the independent suspension of the truck, when you extend the strut by 1-1/4" (for 2" lift) or 1-3/8"; (for 2.5" lift) the angle of the strut becomes steeper allowing the truck to experience approximately 2" or 2.5” of lift, respectively. It is the combination of extending the strut and the change in angle that gives the full lift. Once the leveling kit is properly installed and you have the truck aligned, you will see the lift you expect. Remember that the installation is not complete until you have the truck aligned.
That is all Mr. Tricky 1972. I'm not saying your input is invaluable since your experience base is probably larger than mine.
#14
This is the quote you based your reply on:
I just received the 2" (or 2.5") Dodge Ram leveling kit for the 2006-2011 Ram 1500, Why doesn't the spacer measure 2" (or 2.5") tall?
The ratio of lift to spacer thickness is not one to one. Due to the design of the independent suspension of the truck, when you extend the strut by 1-1/4" (for 2" lift) or 1-3/8"; (for 2.5" lift) the angle of the strut becomes steeper allowing the truck to experience approximately 2" or 2.5” of lift, respectively. It is the combination of extending the strut and the change in angle that gives the full lift. Once the leveling kit is properly installed and you have the truck aligned, you will see the lift you expect. Remember that the installation is not complete until you have the truck aligned.
This is talking about a IFS ram 1/2 ton. I was under the impression you
Sincerely,
Mr. Tricky 1972
I just received the 2" (or 2.5") Dodge Ram leveling kit for the 2006-2011 Ram 1500, Why doesn't the spacer measure 2" (or 2.5") tall?
The ratio of lift to spacer thickness is not one to one. Due to the design of the independent suspension of the truck, when you extend the strut by 1-1/4" (for 2" lift) or 1-3/8"; (for 2.5" lift) the angle of the strut becomes steeper allowing the truck to experience approximately 2" or 2.5” of lift, respectively. It is the combination of extending the strut and the change in angle that gives the full lift. Once the leveling kit is properly installed and you have the truck aligned, you will see the lift you expect. Remember that the installation is not complete until you have the truck aligned.
This is talking about a IFS ram 1/2 ton. I was under the impression you
Sincerely,
Mr. Tricky 1972
Last edited by Wombat Ranger; 11-02-2011 at 05:37 PM.
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