2000 Ram 5.9L, Stalls, Loses Fuel Level
#1
2000 Ram 5.9L, Stalls, Loses Fuel Level
Basic situation: 2000 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9L gas truck runs great but randomly stalls. Zero problems prior to stall, just cuts out. No hesitation, roughness, etc. Happens at any throttle position or speed, but seems more likely when traveling slowly. When it does stall, the fuel gauge goes to zero. Anywhere from 0 to 20 minutes later, fuel gauge comes alive, and it starts right up again. Once it has stalled once, it's more likely to do so until it's fully cool. While fuel gauge is zero, all electronics work fine, engine cranks but doesn't fire.
After reading the forums extensively, I'm almost certain I have a problem somewhere on the ASD loop (seems the fuel gauge is the key symptom) and is probably heat soak related. I have replaced the CKPS (crankshaft) and CPS (camshaft/coil) sensors, as well as the ASD relay, and I still have the problem. But, it's happening a LOT less, so I think it's possible I had two problems causing the same issue.
I read the other posts, it seems my next options are to replace the TPS, MAP, and/or PCM. Does anyone have a recommendation on which might be most likely? If not, I'll probably go in that order, just due to cost of the parts. I probably should have done this earlier, but I'm also going to clean out all of the connectors with electrical cleaner. Is there any chance the fuel pump relay could cause this (esp fuel gauge going to zero)?
Thanks,
Matt
Edit: Forgot to mention that I had the battery tested, and it was fine.
After reading the forums extensively, I'm almost certain I have a problem somewhere on the ASD loop (seems the fuel gauge is the key symptom) and is probably heat soak related. I have replaced the CKPS (crankshaft) and CPS (camshaft/coil) sensors, as well as the ASD relay, and I still have the problem. But, it's happening a LOT less, so I think it's possible I had two problems causing the same issue.
I read the other posts, it seems my next options are to replace the TPS, MAP, and/or PCM. Does anyone have a recommendation on which might be most likely? If not, I'll probably go in that order, just due to cost of the parts. I probably should have done this earlier, but I'm also going to clean out all of the connectors with electrical cleaner. Is there any chance the fuel pump relay could cause this (esp fuel gauge going to zero)?
Thanks,
Matt
Edit: Forgot to mention that I had the battery tested, and it was fine.
Last edited by gatorheel; 11-21-2011 at 02:04 PM.
#2
I feel your pain
Hey Matt,
I have a 2000 Ram 1500. I've had the same problem for months now. Still trying to figure it out. Do you get the "no bus" message on your odometer?
Like you, I've read a lot of threads and gotten a few clues. I replaced my crankshaft position sensor and cleaned up just about every other sensor I could find. Definitely seems related to the ASD relay. I found an article about this that was slightly informative: http://www.allpar.com/fix/codes/sens...-shutdown.html
This is my daily driver. So I am kind of living with unknown potential pit-stops whenever I drive. I have found that when the truck shuts down on me I can reset the computer and the it will run again. I began by unplugging the PCM entirely and then replugging with the key in the on position. Now I've found that I only need to unplug and replug the right-most computer plug. When I do this, the ASD fuse starts buzzing until I replug. Doing this almost always causes my fuel gauge to work again and the truck starts up. The few times that it has not reactivated my fuel gauge there has been also no buzzing noise from the ASD.
So, I don't know. Is the ASD tripping my computer or is it the other way around?
I wish I could be more of a help. I'll update you if I figure this thing out.
Steve
I have a 2000 Ram 1500. I've had the same problem for months now. Still trying to figure it out. Do you get the "no bus" message on your odometer?
Like you, I've read a lot of threads and gotten a few clues. I replaced my crankshaft position sensor and cleaned up just about every other sensor I could find. Definitely seems related to the ASD relay. I found an article about this that was slightly informative: http://www.allpar.com/fix/codes/sens...-shutdown.html
This is my daily driver. So I am kind of living with unknown potential pit-stops whenever I drive. I have found that when the truck shuts down on me I can reset the computer and the it will run again. I began by unplugging the PCM entirely and then replugging with the key in the on position. Now I've found that I only need to unplug and replug the right-most computer plug. When I do this, the ASD fuse starts buzzing until I replug. Doing this almost always causes my fuel gauge to work again and the truck starts up. The few times that it has not reactivated my fuel gauge there has been also no buzzing noise from the ASD.
So, I don't know. Is the ASD tripping my computer or is it the other way around?
I wish I could be more of a help. I'll update you if I figure this thing out.
Steve
#4
Originally Posted by zman17
Maybe the fuel pump is simply going bad. Next time it happens try banging on the fuel tank.
I replaced the fuel pump relay and confirmed that all of the ground wires are very snug. Will get some contact cleaner and shoot that on to the connectors tomorrow. Guess we'll see how she runs this week.
Matt