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Every one wants more MPG....Read this and see how!

Old Jun 14, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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...and you may not, and most that do, may not see it immediately after the fan swap.

It was just something to consider. If someone is calculating the savings yearly that they see at the pump and they have to replace an alternator in the next two years...how much of that MPG savings were wiped out?

Power and MPG are one thing. Doing it because of those savings can be tricky if you don't calculate things in and someone trying to save a few pennies here and there needs to know that it'll take a LONG time to see savings enough to have paid for the swap to begin with, and then consider an item like an alternator may need to be replaced too.

The e-fan has been on my Jag for about 6 years. I have owned it since 2002, and not changed alternator. If it would have been a problem, I would think I would have seen something by now. IF the electrical load is not over the rated capacity of alternator, or casusing alt to run at its capacity in excess of it's duty rating and the battery is good (I know, "if" is a big word here) but with many years of electrical engineering experience I can assure one that the e-fan will not cause premature alt failure. They are not like the old carbon brush generators.

On another note- I did not install the efan on Jag for mileage. i did it as the OEM fan gernaded on me on I40 in the middle of the Painted Desert one Sunday evening. This is when I learne dtaht after a number of years, the fan has a flaw....it like to let go and send chards through the radiator and the underside of the hood - well, at 120mph anyway. I was determined to NOT let that happen again! Ever rebuild a Jag engine? Makes a Magnum look inexpensive!
 

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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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someone already dyno'd the differences and it is almost non existent.

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well here are the sheets fro the mechanical fan removed power increase.
That 215 and 300 run was the middle and lowest of the second dyno day.

 
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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Dyno is misleading..

The bump, which absolutely exists, is between idle and around 1.2k rpm.. after 1200rpm, there is no gain.. the bump is right off the line, and right where its needed.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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And the dyno doesn't even start till 2800 RPM. From idle up to there, we have no data....
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 12:00 AM
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no one said where they were gaining HP. the way most people are talking it sounds like removing the mechanical fan would increase the max HP.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 12:04 AM
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As I've said before, the big difference is on hot days, when the clutch fan would be locked up, at any other time the difference is nill. A better dyno comparison would be bolt the fan solid somehow and see how much of a difference there is.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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This is the carbon brush set out of the back of our alts, Cheap part to buy and 90% of the time the alts main reason for failure. Super ez to change as well.

 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dnfd737
I posted about a year ago, I added electric fans to my truck. It entailed a little work and figuring things out but all in all it took me about an hour and it paid for itself in under 2 months. The total was about $125 these prices are guesses now I lost the receipts.
Ebay fans were about $75
advanced auto relay harness$25
Varrious wires connectors and splitters $25

After looking on ebay it still costs about the same today.

I removed the fan shroud and removed the fan and fan clutch. I cut the shroud so the sides were seperate to hold the over flow resivore and washer fluid. Installed the fans as per directions.

End result was a solid 2mpg. No power waisted on turning the fan clutch.

It comes up to pennies per mile but it will pay for itself in 5k miles or less.
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Do you have any pics of the shroud/installation?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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I do not have pics, but I can take some this weekend and get them up on this thread.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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The mpg thing is not a wash, I have gotten 2mpg improvement. My neighbor put efans on his and got a 2.5 mpg improvement, his is a big jacked up 4x4 with a 5.2. He drives mostly in the city.
 
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