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Old 12-12-2017, 01:28 AM
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driving along engine shuts off. I turn off ignition and when I turn on, no power to gauges. Turn on and off until gauges come on then starts right up. Sometimes happens right away today waited 1/2 hr. it's getting worse
 
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driving along engine shuts off. I turn off ignition and when I turn on, no power to gauges. Turn on and off until gauges come on then starts right up. Sometimes happens right away today waited 1/2 hr. it's getting worse
Any codes? So far this could be a number of things. Bad grounds, bad battery, poor battery connection, broken wire. Going to need a little more info. What year truck, what model, and what engine?
 
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Any codes? So far this could be a number of things. Bad grounds, bad battery, poor battery connection, broken wire. Going to need a little more info. What year truck, what model, and what engine?
Thank you for your reply much appreciated. 2000 Ram Van 1500 5.9L, battery and connections good. Recent codes P0500 circuit malfunction, R & R tran. sensor 1 mo. ago and speedometer, odometer still no op. P0505 circuit malfunction,R & R IAC 4 mos. ago. P0753 circuit malfunction, R & R relay 4 mos. ago. The trans has been in limp mode, no 3rd or overdrive, goes 1st to 2nd no 2nd to 1st? Fuses good, no chaffed wires so far, I've had 3-4 diagnostics past 6 mos. all of them said "circuit malfunction". I've changed solenoids, govenor, relays, IAC, plug wires, plugs, distr. cap & rotor, fuel pump. I'm able to do most of the work after getting familiar with procedure via youtube as I'm on SSI and VA disability and cannot afford a pro mechanic. I was a helicopter mechanic in the Army only to say I'm mechanical? When it shuts off it will not start until the gauges activate while turning key on off anywhere from 1 min. to 1/2 hr. Holding out replacing PCM. Runs good, strong motor, idles ok, a little high but ok. Any suggestions appreciated. Steve
 
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Thank you for your reply much appreciated. 2000 Ram Van 1500 5.9L, battery and connections good. Recent codes P0500 circuit malfunction, R & R tran. sensor 1 mo. ago and speedometer, odometer still no op. P0505 circuit malfunction,R & R IAC 4 mos. ago. P0753 circuit malfunction, R & R relay 4 mos. ago. The trans has been in limp mode, no 3rd or overdrive, goes 1st to 2nd no 2nd to 1st? Fuses good, no chaffed wires so far, I've had 3-4 diagnostics past 6 mos. all of them said "circuit malfunction". I've changed solenoids, govenor, relays, IAC, plug wires, plugs, distr. cap & rotor, fuel pump. I'm able to do most of the work after getting familiar with procedure via youtube as I'm on SSI and VA disability and cannot afford a pro mechanic. I was a helicopter mechanic in the Army only to say I'm mechanical? When it shuts off it will not start until the gauges activate while turning key on off anywhere from 1 min. to 1/2 hr. Holding out replacing PCM. Runs good, strong motor, idles ok, a little high but ok. Any suggestions appreciated. Steve
Thanks for your service! I'm a jarrhead myself! You know what they say about the army Ain't Ready to be a Marine Yet :b. I'll do some digging in the FSM but honestly sounds like a loose ground (frame ground) or a bad wire. Do you have the tilt steering column? If so check the wires going to that, they are known to break. Or another test is when the gauges won't activate move the column up and down. The wire going to the ignition is in there, which is chaffed would make the gauges think the truck is off. There are also two grounds for the cluster on the metal bar behind the knee bolster that is for the cluster. HeyYou knows more about codes then I do. Please post if you did what I asked. I'll try to help you too the best of my ability. Just out of curiosity which state so you live in?
 
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I'd replace the PCM with a good used unit. I found a used PCM for my truck on eBay.
 
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Must say, I've been around never heard that one about Army, that's a good one.I'm going to go look at those spots you recommended, thanks
looked at wires and connections on PCM, & trans. harness they look good.
 
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I'd replace the PCM with a good used unit. I found a used PCM for my truck on eBay.
Then you definitely have a bad wire or ground somewhere.
 
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I'm looking at wires and connections around trans., under hood and dash no luck so far?
 
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Then you definitely have a bad wire or ground somewhere.
No, I didn't have a bad wire or ground issue. I replaced my PCM and the truck started and ran just fine. PCMs can and sometimes do go bad. It's good to have a spare to rule it out as an issue.
 
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No, I didn't have a bad wire or ground issue. I replaced my PCM and the truck started and ran just fine. PCMs can and sometimes do go bad. It's good to have a spare to rule it out as an issue.
I thought you said you replace it with a known working unit. That was my mistake. Glad you got it fixed!
 


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