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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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Fixed it for you . I was quoted $3k over three years ago which is more than the truck is worth. Was also told there's no way the gears were still operating at their age. That was 60k ago!

I just don't see how gears are worth it anymore considering these trucks just aren't worth the steel they have. If the swap can be done yourself then go for it, though.
What does that even mean? If the gears aren't operating, the truck ain't moving.

And prices can vary dramatically, depending on where you are, what labor rates are like in the area, and what kind of shop you go to. I can go down the street from where I live, and have my gears changed in both axles, along with all the bearings and seals, for less than 1500 bucks. Of course, it's an Off Road truck shop, so, they do gears darn near daily, and the guy doing them has been doing so for a couple decades. He is VERY good, and gets 'em done pretty quick.
 
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Soooooo? Go for the 4.10 or stay struggling with 3.55
Go 4.10! I don't know how you are struggling (what motor) as I'm running 3.55 with 40s and still have power to spin the tires
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 10:37 AM
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What does that even mean? If the gears aren't operating, the truck ain't moving.

And prices can vary dramatically, depending on where you are, what labor rates are like in the area, and what kind of shop you go to. I can go down the street from where I live, and have my gears changed in both axles, along with all the bearings and seals, for less than 1500 bucks. Of course, it's an Off Road truck shop, so, they do gears darn near daily, and the guy doing them has been doing so for a couple decades. He is VERY good, and gets 'em done pretty quick.
I have been slacking I don't remember him saying he has bigger tires on the truck.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 11:09 AM
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What does that even mean? If the gears aren't operating, the truck ain't moving.

And prices can vary dramatically, depending on where you are, what labor rates are like in the area, and what kind of shop you go to. I can go down the street from where I live, and have my gears changed in both axles, along with all the bearings and seals, for less than 1500 bucks. Of course, it's an Off Road truck shop, so, they do gears darn near daily, and the guy doing them has been doing so for a couple decades. He is VERY good, and gets 'em done pretty quick.
Good question. He said there's no way my truck's rear axle was still stock or not blown up by 200k. Ever heard of Yukon gears? Randy's Off-road? That's the shop. Based right here in Everett, WA. I walked out never to spend any money there or use Yukon. What a joke they are.

Wish there was a shop like you have in MI. But alas, I'm still in the people's socialist republic of washington.
 
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Good question. He said there's no way my truck's rear axle was still stock or not blown up by 200k. Ever heard of Yukon gears? Randy's Off-road? That's the shop. Based right here in Everett, WA. I walked out never to spend any money there or use Yukon. What a joke they are.

Wish there was a shop like you have in MI. But alas, I'm still in the people's socialist republic of washington.
Guy near me said if I buy the gears (no warranty) he will do both for $450
 
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Originally Posted by Ramman18
Good question. He said there's no way my truck's rear axle was still stock or not blown up by 200k. Ever heard of Yukon gears? Randy's Off-road? That's the shop. Based right here in Everett, WA. I walked out never to spend any money there or use Yukon. What a joke they are.

Wish there was a shop like you have in MI. But alas, I'm still in the people's socialist republic of washington.
Randy's? Yeah. I am aware of them. They sell all sorts of driveline stuff. I take it the folks that work there don't know squat though? I regularly see dodge trucks with over 200K miles, still on the orginal axles. (I even owned one....) Yukon gears are actually pretty good, though you pay for the name as well......
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 96albertaram
Hey all. Wondering if anyone here has 4.10 gears on there halfton and also running 33" tires. And how do you like it? Is it worth the money?
I put 4.10s in my 97 2wd and love them more then the 3.91s. If I was to do it over I would drop 4.56s
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 06:44 PM
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Randy's? Yeah. I am aware of them. They sell all sorts of driveline stuff. I take it the folks that work there don't know squat though? I regularly see dodge trucks with over 200K miles, still on the orginal axles. (I even owned one....) Yukon gears are actually pretty good, though you pay for the name as well......
I had motive put in mine,quiet and smooth
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 07:06 PM
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You are actually going to have your RPM at various speeds much closer to stock with large tires, and deeper gears. For most situations, gas mileage won't change. It likely went down with the larger tires, and stock gears. You may recover that, you may not. A lot depends on where the majority of your driving happens. The idea behind swapping your gears out, is to keep the engine in it's designed power band, in most situations. Currently, with the bigger tires, and stock gears, that is only happening at higher speeds. So, if you do mostly freeway driving, your gas mileage probably improved a point or so. If you drive mostly around town, then your gas mileage likely took a dive.

A trans with more gears is a potential solution. Deeper first gear, taller O/D gear, and the 3.55's axle ratio may actually work in your favor. Trouble is, there just aren't many folks out there doing retrofits of new transmissions into older trucks. They are out there for the diesels, but, between the adapters, electronics, new driveshafts, etc, you are looking at near 5 grand to add two gears to your trans. And that doesn't include the cost of the transmission...... Axle gears are cheaper.

For towing, once again, with larger tires, and steeper gears, you are going to be moving things back close to what they were with stock gears/tires. You will have better power for getting the load moving, and the engine will be further up in the power band to keep the load moving. Will it limit your speed while towing? Yep. Quite likely. However, I do not see that as a drawback.

My truck, with 33's, and 4.56 gears, on the other hand, is simply too much gear. I am pushing over 3K RPM at 55mph. Of course, I am generally pulling something to the tune of 12,000 pounds as well...... so, going 'fast' really isn't a good idea in any event. I WOULD like to be able to go the speed limit, without having my engine screaming though......


Sounds like im going in the right direction. Up here in canada it cost alot more. Like i said the one guy could do it for under 2500 and mine is 4x4 5.9 gas with a rebuilt built motor with 30 000km on it. I love the truck and dont mind spending that money ONLY if im going to notice a difference. Especially when im towing my camper. Its not my daily driver truck but i would be travelling on highways some times
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
Go 4.10! I don't know how you are struggling (what motor) as I'm running 3.55 with 40s and still have power to spin the tires
The struggling is when im towing my camper from 0-60 its a dog. Very scary when merging
 
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