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Old Sep 2, 2024 | 08:57 PM
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Yes, now I actually remember that I did gap the plugs. And I took them off and checked them and they are all at .040 I tried them at .038 no luck, same thing. Then I tried champion plugs at .040 same story. One thing I noticed that spark plug on cyl 8 is always wet. Compression is good 145- 162 on all cylinders. Could it be injectors?
Also why I changed the coolant temperature sensor is because it was never getting to working temperature on the dash. It would get up quarter ways and stay there. After I put a new sensor it's still the same way, as per dash it gets warm quarter way.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 05:43 AM
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Timing was set.
You mean fuel sync? What's the condition of the wires cap and rotor? What temp t stat is is in it?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 09:57 AM
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No what I meant is maybe cyl 8 or few more injectors are bad? Is it possible? And instead of misting for proper combustion it squirts a bunch a fuel at times? I'm not 100% sure about t stat but I'm pretty sure it's 192F . Maybe stuck open? Or faulty dash? How can I check the actual temperature, or or is there a trouble shooting procedure to determine where is the problem?
Fuel sync was done and is good. And cap, wires etc are good. Distributor, wires and coil are brand new!
But I will check that again!
 

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You can check the coolant temperature easily with a laser temperature gun (here's an example - https://www.harborfreight.com/121-in...ter-63985.html). You can also check to see what the PCM is seeing from the temperature sensor by plugging in an OBD2 scanner and checking the engine temperature reading there.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 06:42 PM
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I noticed that spark plug on cyl 8 is always wet.
Take the plug out and let it sit overnight, That should be enough to let it dry out. Unless you have a injector that's leaking. Put the plug in and start it. Make sure you have spark to #8. If the misfire is still there remove the plug and see if it's wet.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 07:53 PM
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And instead of misting for proper combustion it squirts a bunch a fuel at times?
That's pretty much how these injectors work when working properly, there no real atomization like on a diesel, they shoot fuel in, compression atomizes for ignition.

If you recently replaced the wires, that doesn't mean they're good, I would verify spark both with a tester and/or by removing the plug and checking it against the engine. That way you know both the wire and plug are good if you have a good spark.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AtomicDog
You can check the coolant temperature easily with a laser temperature gun (here's an example - https://www.harborfreight.com/121-in...ter-63985.html). You can also check to see what the PCM is seeing from the temperature sensor by plugging in an OBD2 scanner and checking the engine temperature reading there.
I actually tried doing that with one Scanner and it showed n/a for temperature. And now I tried with a different one and it's showing temperature 190-195F when driving and 185 when idling.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dodgetruck2
That's pretty much how these injectors work when working properly, there no real atomization like on a diesel, they shoot fuel in, compression atomizes for ignition.

If you recently replaced the wires, that doesn't mean they're good, I would verify spark both with a tester and/or by removing the plug and checking it against the engine. That way you know both the wire and plug are good if you have a good spark.
There is spark
 
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Originally Posted by Ram 1998
I actually tried doing that with one Scanner and it showed n/a for temperature. And now I tried with a different one and it's showing temperature 190-195F when driving and 185 when idling.
Just to confirm, an ODB2 scanner is showing you a normal temperature? If the temperature the PCM sees is consistently on the cold side, you either have a bad thermostat (sticking open), bad temperature sensor or a wiring issue. That will also cause the engine to not run well, too.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AtomicDog
Just to confirm, an ODB2 scanner is showing you a normal temperature? If the temperature the PCM sees is consistently on the cold side, you either have a bad thermostat (sticking open), bad temperature sensor or a wiring issue. That will also cause the engine to not run well, too.
Yes correct OBD2 scanner is showing that it gets to working temperature.
 
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