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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:01 AM
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Hi. Getting my first paycheck this friday and I plan on doing the whole timing chain/water pump replacement thats on pavementsucks. Just posting here for some added advice and tips as I have never tore apart my engine this much before. I plan on doing the timing chain, water pump, upper, lower, and heater bypess hoses, appropriate gaskets and replacing my hypertech stat with a Napa thermostat. Im going to go with Napa for all the parts except for the timing set. I was looking on Summit and they have two Cloyes sets and I was going to go with the least expensive one. Hopefully those of you who have done this could give me some pointers and maybe even list some things you ran into. Going by the pavement sucks article Im going to need to get a puller and torque wrench as I only have inch-pounds. No matter how much I prepare I always seem to forget something or run into something while working on the truck so any help would be appreciated. Thanks very much.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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IIRC that write up shows the water pump pulley as having bolt heads that you could grab with channellocks to hold the pulley while you turn the fan off. My 2000 didn't have them. I used a strap wrench on the pulley.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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IF you don't have a strap wrench get the biggest screw driver you have (it has to be really big) and you can wedge it in between the 4 small bolts. Hold the screw driver, and get a relaly long wrench and wack it with a hammer to break the fan loose.

Also what are you using to get the harmonic sync off? Might need an impact gun to get the crank bolt off. Its tq'd to like 175
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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I just tore down my engine (complete rebuild in progress) and I tried a strap wrench and screwdriver on the water pump. I couldn't get that damned thing loose. So, I just pulled the whole thing out. Of course, I had a lot more removed from the engine bay so I could pull the pump and fan together. As for the crank bolt, put a socket on it and a good whack with a heavy ball peen hammer will knock it loose.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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if your crank pulley looks like this...
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you may need this puller to yank off the balancer (not sure about the 318 motor pulley)

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my balancer/pulley had an area where you could put a large pry bar to hold the crank still while you wrenched the crank bolt off... super easy once you have the tools. (rent them)

your fan has standard right hand threads so to loosen it go counter clockwise (some have reverse threads on older setups). Get a good strap wrench with a rubber strap (mine is some sort of ruber/plastic pos but it works) and hold the pulley when loosening the fan.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Thanks for all the help so far. Could someone give me an easy list of what tools im gonna need to get.

I dont have a strap wrench so ill get that, I need a ft-lb torque wrench, the puller for the balancer. Im also going to have to get a 9/16" deep socket as said on pavementsucks. I dont know a lot about tools but a deep socket is just a long socket correct? I also dont have a "large seal installation tool"

Will one of the reman. water pumps from napa be okay to go with?

Steve= I was reading your water pump article and I was wondering where I can get the Mopar gaskets you mention with the RTV already "in" them.. Dealer Im guessing?

All of this is really going to help so thank you very much. Im going to start gathering up all the parts so hopefully i can start this weekend.

Edit= Hi, I just ordered this timing set from Summit. It seems fine to me and it was cheper than the other cloyes set and the mopar set. Thanks
Cloyes Gear Timing Set
 
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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I have a thread out there about breaking open my engine. Someone pointed me to an aluminum water pump. That's the route I'm going when I replace mine. Otherwise; remanufactured are usually OK.
 
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the mopar gaskets came from the dealer... that is your best bet. slap it on dry and bolt it up and you'll be good to go. the only place that comes to mind off the top of my head that needs any sealant is the intake manifold near the end seals.

Napa parts are also good... you cant go wrong with them.
 
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Thanks for the help
 
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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I finally got the crank bolt off but now I've discovered the puller I rented from Napa is not the correct one. The center screw doesn't even fit the crankshaft. Anyone with a 2000 or other with the similar crank/pulley assembly know where I can get the correct puller I need? Thanks
 
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