Price to fix plenum gasket...
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RE: Price to fix plenum gasket...
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Had my '99 done at dealer, @ 350.00. They too stated never had one come back. For 350.00 it is worth letting them have the head ache !!!!
Had my '99 done at dealer, @ 350.00. They too stated never had one come back. For 350.00 it is worth letting them have the head ache !!!!
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RE: Price to fix plenum gasket...
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its not hard. go for it. think about how many hours you have to work to pay for it compared to how many it'll take you? you could probably take the time off of work and do it yourself and still save money.
just busting your ***** about the lazy thing. but with all seriousness, we think you should do it
its not hard. go for it. think about how many hours you have to work to pay for it compared to how many it'll take you? you could probably take the time off of work and do it yourself and still save money.
just busting your ***** about the lazy thing. but with all seriousness, we think you should do it
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RE: Price to fix plenum gasket...
it may not be the amount of time.. but also having a place to do it... it is possible he lives in an apartment complex away from home and really doesnt have a place to do it. another possiblity is tools... sure you can buy all of them and get going, but again if he has no place secure to store them, then what?
As far as having the confidence to do it, i'm sure that with everyones experiences here, he'd have more than enough help. if he gets stuck on something, all he has to do is ask...
As far as having the confidence to do it, i'm sure that with everyones experiences here, he'd have more than enough help. if he gets stuck on something, all he has to do is ask...
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RE: Price to fix plenum gasket...
I have NEVER taken anything apart on the engine and I found this to be a fairly mid level job (consider air filter and oil change beginner job). Have a 98 5.2L Ram 1500. Paid $180 to APS for alum. plenum pan deluxe kit (comes with new bolts) and next day shipping. $30 in cleaners, new fuel injector o-rings, and anti-freeze. $40 for oil and filter. $250 total!
Drain the anti-freeze
Take off the belt
Remove Air cleaner assembly
Remove AC compressor and bracket. set out of the way in engine bay.
Remove Alternator (be careful of the ground wire, I snapped mine because I was not being patient)
Remove pulley by alternator
Remove the radiator hose and bypass hose
Remove throttle body and cables
Remove Fuel Rail (if you keep all of the injectors in the rail, you do NOT have to depressurize the fuel system. If you cant keep all of the injectors in the rail, your fuel pump does the re-pressurization for you.)
Remove vaccum lines
Remove the Intake
Remove plenum pan
Scrap off the old gaskets on intake for plenum pan and intake manifolds.
Use 80 or 100 grit sand paper to take to bare metal.
Climb up into your engine and place towel over the guts of engine (rods and standing oil)
Scrap the old gasket off the intake manifold. Towel will catch the big junks so they dont cycle thru the engine.
Use 80 or 100 grit sand paper to take to bare metal.
Use cleaner to clean the oil out of the intake manifold and throttle body.
Put the light coat of Ultra copper sealant on the intake where plenum gasket will sit.
Put the plenum gasket on the bottom of the intake.
Put the plenum pan on top of gasket.
Finger tighten the bolts for the plenum pan
Use Torgue wrench to tighten the bolts. 24 inch pounds, then 48 inch pounds, and finally 84 inch pounds.
Put some ultra copper sealant on the intake manifold.
Place the gaskets on top, be sure that they are facing the correct way.
Place intake back on engine block *be careful not to slide the intake or you may damage the new gaskets*
Tighten intake bolts
Reconnect vaccum lines
Reseat the fuel rail, fuel injectors
Replace the throttle body and cables
Replace the radiator hoses and by-pass hose
Replace alternator
Replace pulley
Replace the AC compressor and bracket
Replace the fan belt (get a new one if your not sure about the old one)
Refill the anti-freeze. Also good time to add some rust stopper or alum-a-seal if you need to.
There is some debate about letting the Ultra copper harden for 12 hours or not. Read the tube and you decide.
Test drive the truck! Warm up and cycle the oil thru the filter.
Change the oil and oil filter.
Check your anti-freeze level over the next couple of days to make sure that you have topped it off.
Check your spark plugs, wires, and ignition cap.Replace if necessary (plugs had to be replace before truck really began to run nice. Plugs fouled up something fierce. Wires and cap were still good.)
This took me about 6 hours to do, 5 not counting time spent looking for that damn inch pound torque wrench. The torque wrench can also be in the 1 pound to 10 pound range. NAPA had one for $70. Sears has some ranging from $80 - $250.
If worried about losing bolts, get some ziploc bags and a sharpie. Label them accordingly (ie alternator, throttle body, ac compressor, ac bracket, pulley, intake, plenum) I did it because that is what I have the most trouble remembering. It looks like a big bad job, but it really is pretty easy.
Drain the anti-freeze
Take off the belt
Remove Air cleaner assembly
Remove AC compressor and bracket. set out of the way in engine bay.
Remove Alternator (be careful of the ground wire, I snapped mine because I was not being patient)
Remove pulley by alternator
Remove the radiator hose and bypass hose
Remove throttle body and cables
Remove Fuel Rail (if you keep all of the injectors in the rail, you do NOT have to depressurize the fuel system. If you cant keep all of the injectors in the rail, your fuel pump does the re-pressurization for you.)
Remove vaccum lines
Remove the Intake
Remove plenum pan
Scrap off the old gaskets on intake for plenum pan and intake manifolds.
Use 80 or 100 grit sand paper to take to bare metal.
Climb up into your engine and place towel over the guts of engine (rods and standing oil)
Scrap the old gasket off the intake manifold. Towel will catch the big junks so they dont cycle thru the engine.
Use 80 or 100 grit sand paper to take to bare metal.
Use cleaner to clean the oil out of the intake manifold and throttle body.
Put the light coat of Ultra copper sealant on the intake where plenum gasket will sit.
Put the plenum gasket on the bottom of the intake.
Put the plenum pan on top of gasket.
Finger tighten the bolts for the plenum pan
Use Torgue wrench to tighten the bolts. 24 inch pounds, then 48 inch pounds, and finally 84 inch pounds.
Put some ultra copper sealant on the intake manifold.
Place the gaskets on top, be sure that they are facing the correct way.
Place intake back on engine block *be careful not to slide the intake or you may damage the new gaskets*
Tighten intake bolts
Reconnect vaccum lines
Reseat the fuel rail, fuel injectors
Replace the throttle body and cables
Replace the radiator hoses and by-pass hose
Replace alternator
Replace pulley
Replace the AC compressor and bracket
Replace the fan belt (get a new one if your not sure about the old one)
Refill the anti-freeze. Also good time to add some rust stopper or alum-a-seal if you need to.
There is some debate about letting the Ultra copper harden for 12 hours or not. Read the tube and you decide.
Test drive the truck! Warm up and cycle the oil thru the filter.
Change the oil and oil filter.
Check your anti-freeze level over the next couple of days to make sure that you have topped it off.
Check your spark plugs, wires, and ignition cap.Replace if necessary (plugs had to be replace before truck really began to run nice. Plugs fouled up something fierce. Wires and cap were still good.)
This took me about 6 hours to do, 5 not counting time spent looking for that damn inch pound torque wrench. The torque wrench can also be in the 1 pound to 10 pound range. NAPA had one for $70. Sears has some ranging from $80 - $250.
If worried about losing bolts, get some ziploc bags and a sharpie. Label them accordingly (ie alternator, throttle body, ac compressor, ac bracket, pulley, intake, plenum) I did it because that is what I have the most trouble remembering. It looks like a big bad job, but it really is pretty easy.
