Anyone have experience with the Accel perfomance air filter? http://cgi.ebay.ca/Accel-High-Perfor...QQcmdZViewItem
Any good? A lot cheaper than a K&N.

 

Don't waste your money on either.

Go to this post:

https://dodgeforum.com/m_666163/tm.htm

and study the pictures of the air boxes there
on the Viper V10
and the Toyota Tundra 5.7 iForce v8.

Then Google
Engine Compartment BMW M6
or
Engine Compartment Corvette C6

study those pictures
do either look like the Accel or KN?

 

Hank, I respect your posts because they are usually right on and have the technical data to back it up, but I'm not sure what your point is with these recent posts referencing those other engines and their air intake designs. If your trying to say those designs are superior, then I must ask in what way (power, fuel economy, best filtration, etc...)? They are designs that Toyota engineers and Viper engineers came up with to work with that specific engine from the standpoint of power, emissions, and even asthetics. I don't think that necessarily means that those same design are best for trukr36's application or any other Ram application? They might be, but unless someone took the effort to retrofit one of those onto their Ram, we'll never know if those designs are any better then Accel or K&N. By contrast, I say study this Sean Hyland 600hp crate engine. Doesn't look anything like those other designs you referenced, but it clearly works for what it was designed for.

So anyway, I guess I am just not sure what your point is with your post.

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please bump that pic... its for a ford.

 

studies have showen that foam lest in more unwanted stuff to teh inlet. there is even debate as to if cotton is better than paper but fome is down there with metal mesh filters. That said i know many people that have run foam filters for many many miles so i doubt you will notice any problems but i would recomend oiling the foam also.

 

Sorry, how about this Chrysler 440. Is that better for you.


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I am trying to think of a short way to write this.....

Let's say we could somehow get the Mythbusters TV show to do an episode on
'Do Aftermarket Air Intakes greatly improve acceleration in the Quartermile for Ram pickup trucks 1994-2001'

Two identical stock Rams would be bought for the testing.
Each aftermarket air intake design would make a run on a truck right next
to a stock Ram truck. This controls for air temperature, air pressure,
pavement conditions, wind, etc.

Keri would be assigned to create her version of an air intake
for the honor of Mythbuster's crew,
and would be allowed to use her feminine wiles
to talk to anyone...Honda, Roger Penske, Tom Hoover, etc.

KN, Accel, Volant, etc
would be bought 'off the shelf' by a Mythbusters employee
who would not identify themselves as anything but a
regular customer.

The SRT Engineers from Chrysler would be invited too.

And, to create some intense German
'Death before Dishonor'
competition for the SRT Engineers,
BMW would be invited to send some
'Student Trainees' to create an intake.

Just to spice things up a little more
The Mythbusters would say that the winner
would be publicly given Trophies & $100,000
at a party at the next
Society of Automotive Engineers annual Convention (SAE)
where free beer and food would also be served
to attract a big crowd.

But let's throw in one last 'killer' requirement,
each intake design would have to run for 2 weeks
up and down dirt roads
where they would have to do some real filtering
and pickup 'real world' layers of crud
before the acceleration runs.

What would the winning air intake look like?

Since the Magnum 5.9 v8 has
twin throttle bores and a semi-divided intake manifold
it would look a lot like
the twin intakes on the BMW M6 Five Liter V10.

The key to understanding this
is to understand
that 'success' for KN and Accel
does not mean winning performance tests....
Success for them
means having a
'look & sound'
to their intakes
that convinces consumers
to whip out their credit cards and buy them.

I would bet $100
that Keri's intake design would do better than the
KN, Accel, Volant, Airaid, etc
because she is obviously willing to do research
and would get good information
from people like Tom Hoover, Honda, MIT, etc.

 

That was the short way to write that?

Well I agree that there are definetly better looking designs out there, and someone should come along an make a better looking air intake for our Rams. But other then looks, your not really going to design anything better then what you'll find on the aftermarket for the simple reason that 5.2/5.9 2nd gen Rams are speed density designs, not mass air designs. So no matter how much air you add (short of supercharging or turbo charging), you are only going to see so much improvement, and that is it. The rest is in the design of your other mods, accuracy of your system sensors, and programming on your PCM. So unless Keri's design incorporates those elements as well, I doubt she would do any better then a $250 K&N FIPK, or a $30 Mr. Gasket 14" x 3" round filter, or even a $24 Edelbrock ProFlow 1000.

 

These guys;

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=14140

did the best test on aftermarket air intakes that I have seen.

Even though I think they did the best test yet,
it would have been even better if the testing
had been quartermile runs
instead of the rear wheel dyno.

It would be great if 12 different 2nd Gen Ram owners
would take off their name brand aftermarket air intakes
and mail them to one member
who would then test them at a drag strip
on the exact same Ram
who would run beside a very similar Ram (with same tires)
as a 'control' for air temperature, pavement slickness, wind, etc.

Since I am running my mouth on the subject
I pledge to contribute $100 toward the cost of a test like that.

3rd Gen Ram owners should do a similar test.

About 2 months ago one of the diesel pickup magazines
did a test of 3 different aftermarket air intakes for the Cummins
and found no HP gain versus the stock factory air intake on a rear wheel dyno.

That test has not been put online for free to read.
I would suspect that the magazine was threatened with
'no more advertising for you'
if they did put the weblink online.