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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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I was hoping you'd chime in donkey...

I only know turbo stuff for small four bangers...

...you think if I could find a turbo for under a thousand dollars... I could complete the build for about 2500?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by donkeypunch
Looks like I need to go bigger...
That's the universal cure for almost any problem. Go bigger!
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Absolutely, but there are some things you need to consider. Cost vs benefit comes into play here. Most factory turbochargers will have a 360 degree oil thrust bearing center section. Depending on the the power levels you are looking to achieve vs. longevity of the setup, you may want to consider getting a dual ceramic ball bearing center section. A CBB center section will spool sooner than a 360 thrust section. As far as easability goes, most thrust bearing center sections do not require coolant flow at the center section. If you go CBB, you will need to plumb for coolant lines. Also, it may be in your best interest to consider a port-shrouded compressor housing as well. This will eliminate MOST compressor surge at part throttle, a compressor bypass valve that has too much spring pressure, or early spool characteristics. Ceramic ball bearing turbos typically are about double the price of a 360 degree thrust style turbo.

I would highly recommend using Tial wastegates and compressor bypass valves. I have had nothing but carefree experiences with them. Turbo XS components angered me enough to throw them in the trash. Get a Hallman Pro manual boost controller and never look back. There is no need for anything fancy here. Most electronic boost controllers are a b*%$# to configure and extremely costly.

Figure in these costs (roughly):

Turbocharger: $1500.00 (port-shrouded housing, CBB)
Custom intercooler piping: $500.00 ish'?
Boost controller: $100-120.00
Intercooler: $150-250.00 (depending on size ish')
Exhaust plumbing: $...ha....?
Oil and coolant lines (with fab considerations): $200.00 ish'
Tial 44mm v-band wastegate: $385
Tial 50mm bov: $200.00

An STS kit/style would be easier to install (considering the fab work involved), however...20 feet of intercooler piping, oil, and coolant lines doesn't sit well with me. Everyone I have talked to with an STS kit or similar has hated it. They require an oil scavaging pump to return oil to the pan...and it's a long way from the back of the truck to the oil pan.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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http://turboneticsinc.com/60series_turbochargers

This is the one I'm considering, donkey...

That would cut project cost, down, a LOT...

Maybe use some extra money for forged internals?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by donkeypunch
They require an oil scavaging pump to return oil to the pan...and it's a long way from the back of the truck to the oil pan.
This is the original problem Adam had with his install, the oil pump. Now it appears he has a cracked turbo housing. He is waiting to see what STS and KRC say about it.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenchy
Maybe use some extra money for forged internals?
This will prove to be more expensive than the turbo itself. If you plan on running 10psi of boost and down, your stock internals will be fine. Anything above 10psi, I recommend forging or better pistons at least.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Looks Great
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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I'd drop the extra on forged internals, I'm paranoid, like that...

I don't want to risk anything...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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frenchy.. $2600 gets you a compete turbo kit WITH TUNING AND INJECTORS just minus your exhaust work. ALL PARTS. I've blasted the krc link many times. You can even get a purple BOV.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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New pics are sick brotha The banana is back in action!
 
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