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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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1st are there any other H.O. SC owners?

2nd. I'm trying to get SC to fix/improve their 91 tune in light throttle situations. My truck bogs down when shifting from 2-3 on inclined roads like hills or mountains. It also blows through 1st and 2nd by 30 mph and hold 3rd from 30mph to 60mph before it shifts again. So 3rd is bogged down until it reaches around 2700 rpm and then the power is back. Now I'm trying to convince their calibrations guy for dodge to just kick 2nd gear to hold more rpms to get 3rd to start closer to 2700. That means 2nd will shift higher than 3k rpms. The calibrations guy said he's gotten into it with 4.7 owners saying it shifted to late and doesn't want to get into that again. To me a performance tune is and should be a performance tune. With that in mind a 3k shift isn't really a performance shift to me.

So a couple of ?'s. Do any of the non H.O owners experience that or truck behave the same way on inclines?

Does your truck in 3rd pick up power around 2700?

Would you rather the tune stay the same?

Where do you stand on a 4k rpm shift in atleast 2nd gear? As it's the only one that affects 3rd.

I don't know if 4k is the magic number that puts 3rd near 2700 but anything is better than what it is now. My wife's stock Scion XB shifts around 4500 on its own in light throttle...
 

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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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I do not want light throttle shifts from 1-2 or 2-3 at or near 3k rpm. Mine shifts around 2200 and acceleration feels the same before and after the shifts. Again this is light throttle, speed up enough to stop again at the next stop light driving.

I will watch for the 2700 rpm 3rd gear power gains, but no I have not noticed it.

4k RPM shift and I would return the damn thing, that is crazy under light throttle.

4500 in light throttle? WTF is the scion a 2 cylinder?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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my truck would hold first gear for quite awhile before it would shift coming off a light, when getting on the highway i never had an issue with it shifting to soon, doing 65, i would just lightly press the pedal an into passing gear it would go, i was happy with the tune, now with the sct tuning, i can do a lot more, are you sure you have the shift points correctly on the tuner and did they load properly?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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something is telling the computer to shift early, maybe the gas you are using could be bad or the truck is senseing a problem and making it shift sooner, all my shift points are dead on and shifts like a biotch and snaps your neck back, putting a nice smile on my face. plus the low end grunt coming out of the hole is sweet, you just hear and feel the truck grinding and digging into the ground on take off, than it just screams like it should
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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I do not want light throttle shifts from 1-2 or 2-3 at or near 3k rpm. Mine shifts around 2200 and acceleration feels the same before and after the shifts. Again this is light throttle, speed up enough to stop again at the next stop light driving.

I will watch for the 2700 rpm 3rd gear power gains, but no I have not noticed it.

4k RPM shift and I would return the damn thing, that is crazy under light throttle.

4500 in light throttle? WTF is the scion a 2 cylinder?
You kidding? Why upload performance? This is light throttle not barely moving rather between 15-25% throttle according to the data log tool. A performance tune is what it should be – performance. Any consumer of this should expect it to behave that way. In my opinion, anyone who think a +3k rpm shift is to much isn’t thinking performance. My wife’s stock Scion Xb shifting around 4500 rpm is the better for it because it doesn’t have the low torque.

Just remember the condition setting I'm speaking from is inclined roads like hills or mountains. The 3k works just fine on flat road.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by superdak05
my truck would hold first gear for quite awhile before it would shift coming off a light, when getting on the highway i never had an issue with it shifting to soon, doing 65, i would just lightly press the pedal an into passing gear it would go, i was happy with the tune, now with the sct tuning, i can do a lot more, are you sure you have the shift points correctly on the tuner and did they load properly?
Nope mines skips to 3rd by 30mph and holds 3rd till 60mph. Ofcoarse you have 4.10s too so you'll get better low grunt anyway. On a specific ramp here I can be stuck in 3rd and increase from 25% to 50% before it decides to shift. ...side ? are you using the 91 tune or the 87 still.

I've done 2 updates within the past month so SC could read what's going on with the truck and they said it's fine. So the way it's behaving everyone's should...I guess for non-H.O. engines.
 
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Originally Posted by ericemery
Umm, my mods are going to be different that the average, but I wouldnt mind a slightly higher shift...


WOT shifts are bad from 2-3 also... they are 400 less than the programmed settings...


i have been told by 4 different sct tuners that they cant adjust shift settings in any way...
Yeah, if I wanted it to behave like stock I'd have left it there. Which is what light throttle is programmed to do mimic stock. (...I don't want it to behave like stock...ugh)

Well SC can they just don't want getting complaints that it's holding too long after the push the RPMs out past 3k.

Here's how I think of the way it operates now and what I want. Think of it performing just like a manual. You shift and release the clutch hard and engine's power is drained from it unless you release the clutch smoothly. Which is what stock is doing softer shifts. Now if you would have held onto more rpms before shifting and made no changes in throttle pressure that same shift would have left the engine with more power in the next gear because the rpms were higher in it too.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Never mind I guess. The guy I've been talking to is the new product coordinator. I don't know why but he finally understood what I was talking about. Anyways, he just told me they're working on a new update to allow us to set our own part throttle shifts. He didn't give me any details and said they don't have a release date yet. So that's good news for me. I'll crank those rpms up for longer shifts.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by studlyblueiz
You kidding? Why upload performance? This is light throttle not barely moving rather between 15-25% throttle according to the data log tool. A performance tune is what it should be – performance. Any consumer of this should expect it to behave that way. In my opinion, anyone who think a +3k rpm shift is to much isn’t thinking performance. My wife’s stock Scion Xb shifting around 4500 rpm is the better for it because it doesn’t have the low torque.

Just remember the condition setting I'm speaking from is inclined roads like hills or mountains. The 3k works just fine on flat road.

LOL no I'm not kidding. I said I was speaking about city traffic with stop signs. 3k+ rpm shifts are great when I am pushing the pedal down more than 15%, but for normal traffic 2200 rpm seems to be perfect. Why didn't you buy a stick?

Good luck though man, they are "working on" a lot of things. I think you will be waiting a long time.
 
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