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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Hey guys need some help here. Tried using my power windows when it was a little icy and they haven't worked since. The electrical power outlet on the dash doesn't work either. My thoughts were I just blew one of the fuses. Did some investigating and replaced fuses 22 and 28 as those were for the power outlets. Still doesn't work and at this point I'm baffled. Any help would be awesome guys thanks.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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That definitely sounds like a fuse to me, I think the windows have their own fuse did you check that one too?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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I couldn't find a fuse listed for the power windows. But regardless I replaced the fuses for the outlets and they don't even work whick leads me to believe that they are almost certainly on the same circuit.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Word for word from manual

POWER WINDOWS
DESCRIPTION
The power window system allows each of the door windows to be raised and lowered electrically by actuating a
switch on the trim panel of each respective door. A master switch on the driver side front door trim panel allows the
driver to raise or lower each of the passenger door windows and to lock out the individual switches on the pas-
senger doors from operation. The power window system receives battery feed through a circuit breaker in the Junc-
tion Block (JB), only when the ignition switch is in the On position.
The power window system includes the power window switches on each door trim panel, the circuit breaker, and the
power window motors inside each door.
The power window motor and mechanism is integral to the power window regulator unit. If the power window motor
or mechanism is inoperative or damaged, the entire power window regulator unit must be replaced. (Refer to 23 -
BODY/DOOR - FRONT/WINDOW REGULATOR - REMOVAL) or (Refer to 23 - BODY/DOORS - REAR/WINDOW
REGULATOR - REMOVAL) for the window regulator service procedures.
OPERATION
POWER WINDOW SWITCH
The power windows are controlled by a window/lock switch on the trim panel of each front door. Switches in the
driver door window/lock switch allows the driver to control the passenger window (s).
The power window switch for the driver side front door window has a second detent position beyond the normal
Down position that provides an automatic one-touch window down feature. This feature is controlled by the window/
lock switch.
The power window switches control the battery and ground feeds to the power window motors. All of the passenger
door power window switches receive their battery and ground feeds through the circuitry of the window/lock switch.
When the power window lockout switch is in the Lock position, the battery feed for the individual passenger door
power window switches is interrupted.
POWER WINDOW MOTOR
A permanent magnet reversible motor moves the window regulator through an integral gearbox mechanism. A pos-
itive and negative battery connection to the two motor terminals will cause the motor to rotate in one direction.
Reversing the current through these same two connections will cause the motor to rotate in the opposite direction.
In addition, each power window motor is equipped with an integral self-resetting circuit breaker to protect the motor
from overloads. The power window motor and gearbox assembly cannot be repaired and, if inoperative or damaged,
the power window regulator must be replaced.

DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
POWER WINDOWS
For complete circuit diagrams, refer to the appropriate wiring information.
ALL WINDOWS INOPERATIVE
1. Check the circuit breaker. If OK, go to Step 2. If not OK, replace the inoperative circuit breaker.
2. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the window/lock switch from the driver side front door
trim panel. Unplug the wire harness connector.
3. Check for continuity between the ground circuit cavity of the door module wire harness connector and a good
ground. If OK, go to Step 4. If not OK, repair the circuit to ground as required.8N - 78 POWER WINDOWS ND
4. Connect the battery negative cable. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Check for battery voltage at the
fused ignition switch output (run) circuit cavity of the window/lock switch wire harness connector. If OK, (Refer to
8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER LOCKS/POWER LOCK SWITCH - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING). If not OK, repair the
circuit as required.
ONE WINDOW INOPERATIVE
The window glass must be free to slide up and down for the power window motor to function properly. If the glass
is not free to move up and down, the motor will overload and trip the integral circuit breaker. To determine if the
glass is free, disconnect the regulator from the glass. Then slide the window up and down by hand.
There is an alternate method to check if the glass is free. Position the glass between the up and down stops. Then,
shake the glass in the door. Check that the glass can be moved slightly from side to side, front to rear, and up and
down. Then check that the glass is not bound tight in the tracks. If the glass is free, proceed with the diagnosis that
follows. If the glass is not free, determine the cause of the condition.
If the only inoperative window is in the driver or passenger side front door and the preceding checks have not
identified a problem, (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER WINDOWS/WINDOW MOTOR - DIAGNOSIS AND TEST-
ING). If the problem being diagnosed involves only the Auto-down feature for the driver side front door window, but
all of the power windows are operational, replace the driver’s side window/lock switch. For diagnosis of the window/
lock switch, (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER LOCKS/POWER LOCK SWITCH - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING).
For a rear power window problem proceed with the following:
1. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Unplug the wire harness connector from the power window
switch unit on the door with the inoperative power window. Check for continuity between the ground circuit cavity
of the power window switch wire harness connector and a good ground. There should be continuity. If OK, go to
Step 2. If not OK, repair the open circuit to the power window and door lock master switch as required.
2. Connect the battery negative cable. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Check for battery voltage at the
fused ignition switch output (run) circuit cavity in the body half of the power window switch unit wire harness
connector. If OK, go to Step 3. If not OK, repair the open circuit to the window / door lock switch as required.
3. Test the power window switch continuity (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER LOCKS/POWER LOCK SWITCH -
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING) or (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER WINDOWS/POWER WINDOW SWITCH -
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING). If OK, go to Step 4. If not OK, replace the power window switch.
4. Check the continuity in each circuit between the inoperative power window switch wire harness connector cavi-
ties and the corresponding power window motor wire harness connector cavities. If OK, (Refer to 8 - ELECTRI-
CAL/POWER WINDOWS/WINDOW MOTOR - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING). If not OK, repair the open circuit(s)
as required.
NOTE: All passenger door power window switches receive their battery and ground feed for operating the
passenger door power window motors through the driver side power window and lock master switch and
wire harness connector.

SWITCH-POWER WINDOW
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
POWER WINDOW SWITCH
For complete circuit diagrams, refer to the appropriate wiring information.
The front door power window switches are included in the window/lock switch (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/
POWER LOCKS/POWER LOCK SWITCH - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING).
ND POWER WINDOWS 8N - 79
The Light-Emitting Diode (LED) illumination lamps for all of the power window switch ***** receive battery current
through the power window circuit breaker in the junction block. If all of the LEDs are inoperative in the power win-
dow switch and the power windows are inoperative, (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER WINDOWS - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). If the power windows operate, but any or all of the LEDs are inoperative, the power window and
lock switch units with the inoperative LED(s) must be replaced.
1. Check the fuse and the circuit breaker. If OK, go to Step 2. If not OK, replace the fuse or circuit breaker.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Check for battery voltage at the fuse in the Integrated Power Module
(IPM). If OK, turn the ignition switch to the Off position and go to Step 3. If not OK, check circuit breaker and
repair the circuit to the ignition switch as required.
3. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the power window switch from the door trim panel.
Unplug the wire harness connector from the switch.
4. Test the power window switch continuity. See the Power Window Switch Continuity chart to determine if the con-
tinuity is correct in the Neutral, Up and Down switch positions. If OK, (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER WIN-
DOWS - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING). If not OK, replace the inoperative switch.
REAR POWER WINDOW SWITCH CONTINUITY CHART
SWITCH POSITION CONTINUITY BETWEEN
NEUTRAL PIN 3 & 4, PIN 1 & 2
UP PIN 6 & 3, PIN 1 & 2
DOWN PIN 6 & 2, PIN 3 & 4
REMOVAL
The driver and front passenger side power window switch is included in the window/lock switch. (Refer to 8
- ELECTRICAL/POWER LOCKS/POWER LOCK SWITCH - REMOVAL) for the service procedures.
1. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable.
2. Remove the door trim panel (Refer to 23 - BODY/
DOORS - REAR/TRIM PANEL - REMOVAL).
3. Remove switch from door trim panel.
INSTALLATION
The driver and front passenger side power window
switch is included in the window/lock switch.
(Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/POWER LOCKS/POWER
LOCK SWITCH - INSTALLATION).
1. Install the switch to the door trim panel.
2. Install the door trim panel (Refer to 23 - BODY/
DOORS - REAR/TRIM PANEL - INSTALLATION).
3. Connect the battery negative cable.
MOTOR-WINDOW
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
WINDOW MOTOR
For complete circuit diagrams, refer to the appropriate wiring information.
1. Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the trim panel from the door with the inoperative
power window.
2. Unplug the power window motor wire harness connector. Apply 12 volts across the motor terminals to check its
operation in one direction. Reverse the connections across the motor terminals to check the operation in the
other direction. If the window is in the full up or full down position, the motor will not operate in that direction by
design. If OK, repair the circuits from the power window motor to the power window switch as required. If not OK, replace the inoperative motor.
3. If the motor operates in both directions, check the operation of the window glass and lift mechanism through its
complete up and down travel. There should be no binding or sticking of the window glass or lift mechanism
through the entire travel range. If not OK, check the window glass, tracks, and regulator for sticking, binding, or
improper adjustment.
REMOVAL
The power window motor is integral to the power window regulator unit. If the power window motor is inoperative or
damaged, the entire power window regulator unit must be replaced. (Refer to 23 - BODY/DOOR - FRONT/WINDOW
REGULATOR - REMOVAL) or (Refer to 23 - BODY/DOORS - REAR/WINDOW REGULATOR - REMOVAL) for the
window regulator service procedures.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Do you have any of the wiring diagrams?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I downloaded the service manual and after a few hours was able to find all the information I needed. Apparently the fuse I replaced (#22) only feeds the power outlet and has nothing to do with the power windows. Tracked down what fed that which is Fuse #2 40A which feeds fuse #22 as well as the power windows. Going to pick one up tomorrow and swap it out. Will post my results.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Well ran into a snag and my research didn't pan out. Started pulling fuses and found the burnt one being #31 replaced that and I'm good to go again.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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Wooo hooo! Good deal!
 
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