new component system
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new component system
which should i get
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130TSA1...2C.html?tp=106
or
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB65...01.html?tp=106
one is bigger but one has better frequency. which one?
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130TSA1...2C.html?tp=106
or
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB65...01.html?tp=106
one is bigger but one has better frequency. which one?
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Polk FTW. Bigger woofer, better tweeter (I've always heard silk tweeters were better), better low range frequency, higher power handling capacity, and higher sensitivity (will be louder for a given amount of power).
Don't worry about the upper frequency range unless you want your dog to enjoy music you will never hear, since humans can only hear up to around the 20kHz range at best
Don't worry about the upper frequency range unless you want your dog to enjoy music you will never hear, since humans can only hear up to around the 20kHz range at best
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You can have a set of Focal Utopias that sound like poop if you dont have a way to get them a clean signal... With that, what headunit/amp are you running?
if your going with the stock headunit and no amp, I wouldnt look at components yet.
The pioneers will probably sound just as good as the polks un-amped.
But if your amping them with a decent head unit. Go with the polks. You won be disappointed.
The stock alpine speakers are adequate for the signal the stock head unit puts out... Probably not a paper cone speaker on the planet that I would call "great". Although, they do have the surround to take a pretty good beating, I will give them that.
if your going with the stock headunit and no amp, I wouldnt look at components yet.
The pioneers will probably sound just as good as the polks un-amped.
But if your amping them with a decent head unit. Go with the polks. You won be disappointed.
The stock alpine speakers are adequate for the signal the stock head unit puts out... Probably not a paper cone speaker on the planet that I would call "great". Although, they do have the surround to take a pretty good beating, I will give them that.
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The paper cones are light and accurate. If you are not looking to shatter your eardrums, they are a great choice. I have had two sets of quality poly-coned speakers, and the Alpines are much better. I have 75watts per speaker x-over at 90 hertz.
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Are you just comparing them by ear? or did you set up a term lab mic and compare frequencies?
I have tested a lot of speakers in the last 8 years, and I havent come across many paper cone speakers that have the frequency response of a decent set of poly cone components. Especially a speaker that can be had for 60 bucks a set.
I have tested a lot of speakers in the last 8 years, and I havent come across many paper cone speakers that have the frequency response of a decent set of poly cone components. Especially a speaker that can be had for 60 bucks a set.
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Yes, I'm comparing them by ear. My entire life has been car audio, custom home theater, and now pro-sound. My ear is pretty good, and I don't need an RTA to tell me what works. Many of the best speakers have paper cones. In the case of the Alpines, paper cones with butyl rubber surrounds, injection molded nylon baskets, 1.50" voice coils, and vented poles. All I'm saying is if you have them, you should spend your audio upgrade dollars somewhere else first, as you will end up paying several hundred dollars for a component set that does as good a job. Heck, even the tweeters are 1" silk domes under that gray plastic.
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I agree that they are decent speakers, and many great speakers do have paper cones. They typically arent in a mobile environment.
I agree that the money should be spent elsewhere first. Primarily in signal processing.
If you have been in audio your entire life, odds are your ears arent all that great.
I agree that the money should be spent elsewhere first. Primarily in signal processing.
If you have been in audio your entire life, odds are your ears arent all that great.