http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...inch_leaf.html

 

hey! now your getting it lol. finally checking out some REAL suspension. yes, deavers are the s***. nothing better if your sticking with leaf. couple things to consider. the rangers flip the rear shackle and usually body lift the bed or cut a couple holes for the bigger shackles to go up into the bed. since we already have up hung shackles, we would also need to go up into the bed. BUT we could flip our shackles to look like the rangers stock shackles and then put in some deavers and spring under flip it. and it would be the best setup we could get for leaf springs...unless you wanna bed cage and link with coilovers which is the best it gets.....

 

Great idea BUT lifting or getting better travel from the rear has never been a problem for our trucks. It's lifting the front thats the prob.

 

lifting the crappy cheap wrong way? no, not a problem. getting more travel. still a problem being as deaver will only custom make a spring pack per customer and NOT produce them.

 

i dont need to cut anything because i have a bodylift installed. I have room enough for a 10''longer shackles but 7'' is already more than what i expected to use. We cant really moove the front bracked without major modification and welding to frame and for a dayly driver...me i pass my turn... but the addition of a add a leaf with my a 2'' lowering shackle should help alot (i am using RCX shocks and i am not limited to maximum travel extended) i dont know about recurving the leafs but it would moove the wheel foward
http://www.airbagit.com/product-p/x2-blo-offset-2.htm

lol your favorite site again for a reference picture!!

 

what about a 2wd ram 1500 leaf? wow i've learned so much from this thread in so few posts

never would have thought about the lowering shackle/flipped mount with lift springs for longer travel...so simple yet so brilliant

i guess you could goto a custom suspension shop (r&h spring here in jersey) and have cu$tom high arch dakota springs made

 

stay away from anything Ram related for our trucks. they are a different weight category and everything made for the ram would be like bobtailing a rig with the bags fully inflated. way to much hop. and hop is unsafe unless your in the dirt

for the rear. deaver makes high arch leafs that bolt on to stock location. its best to have longer shackles so you gain WAY more travel not only allowing to springs to arch as you lift but also allowing the shackle to move inward for even more travel. limit straps are a must!!!

deavers give you about 3" lift stock. and a spring under swap which is highly recommended, takes away about 3" so your left at a stock ride height. so extending the rear shackle upwards on our stock hanger is going to actually lower the truck below factory specs.

SO! the best thing to do. unless your running pro 2 short course (low squat is required) than you want to flip the rear hangers and get longer shackles to extend downward to give lift and travel. along with the 3" lift deavers and -3" spring under.

that way you can set your own ride height depending on how tall your shackle is. usually a 1:1 ratio. oh yea dont forget to plasma cut the perches off the axle tube, set your pinion angle at ride height. and reweld. to remove driveline vibration.

the problem with regular companies making high arch springs is they are the same thickness and number of packs. so you get this lifted truck with stiff springs and no travel. deavers are thinner and made to flatten out almost completely and than rearch to ride height after you recover from the landing.

sorry for the book. just trying to inform lol

 

Now I'm confused I see tons of soa converts (I think there is a thread about a white dak) and your saying sua is the way to go for travel...why does the location of spring to axle matter so much? Also when your that extended wouldn't the u joints bind up(ranger link in op)? Would some type of independant rear be a plus or minus in this situation?

 

SUA almost eliminated axle wrap. and since the deavers lift your truck and the longer shackles lift your truck. you dont want 7" of lift in the rear and 4 in the front. so SUA makes it even while still having all the travel the new leafs have. also, in some cases, like my case, for desert racing. i want more bump travel (ability for the axle to move upwards into the bed) for woops and soft landing jumps. so for the axle to be on top of the springs. by the time the spring is fully compressed. the axle is about 3 or so more inches into the bed then if it was SOA.

and yes the u joints eventually bind at a certain point. which is why you have to reset your pinion angle at the new ride height. than install limit straps at your pre bind droop height. but keep in mind droop travel is only achieved when your in the air and no power or stress is being put on the drivetrain. so even if they have a little bit of bind. its only in mid air and once your tires touch ground it evens back out.

 

My truck has 2500 ram leafs in it. They were there when I bought it. Why on earth they would put them in is beyond me. Like getting a 3/4 ton with a V6...lol