PS: can you point me to where you got the antispin option info ?

I just looked at my window sticker and it listed the 3.92 as what comes standard on all models and I figured it was a typo, so I went to the Chrysler site to see if any info was still there and they had a pdf file for my year / model truck showing the 3.92 was base line, all other ratios were special order, and all rear axles were LD, but no mention of an anti spin option (it wasn't a very complete list, just basics)

Thanks Again

 

Again, doesn't our front end comes with an electronic locking front diff, which is what makes it bind when turning on dry pavement in 4WD. If it had an open front diff wouldn't it compensate and not cause it to bind. Therefore, your front tire that was on pavement should have had some power allowing you to pull out of that mud. My truck, also a 2011 but with the v6 has pulled me out of many tough situations some very similar to you if not worse, slippery soupy mud on one side and gravel on the other. Even with my tires, General Grabber AT2, i know my drivers side was completely stuck as when i finally got my truck out, the treads were completely caked in mud and i couldn't even see rubber. I was in 2wd and didn't notice the mud, lost full forward motion and my passenger side nearly got pulled in also just from the drag. put it in 4wd and it pulled right out. i had fun driving fast clearing the mud from the tires after, then spent a good 30 minutes after i got home hosing off just the wheel wells. No pictures of that trip though.

 

I found on another site where it said the only 2011 offered with factory electric lockers was the Rubicon, don't know if that is true or not but in my conversation with the service manager he said there is no factory parts available to convert / change / make mine into a useable real 4X4 at any price, but he would be glad to do it with aftermarket parts if I wanted him to price it out. He said there are aftermarket electric lockers for it, I told him no thanks.

 

I do not tolerate open diffs, nothing worse than sitting there spinning half the tires you should be.

A Powertrax Lock-Right is a few hundred bucks and will solve your problems, if you don't mind a couple added quirks.


No. The bind is caused by a difference in speed between the front and rear axles in a turn, this is why AWD vehicles have a diff in the transfercase to compensate between front and rear and eliminate binding.

 

Nope. The bind is from the front wheels turning at different speeds.

Fellas, it has ALWAYS been like this with 4x4 vehicles unless specifically equipped with LOCKING differntials. I can't believe you're just now finding this out.....

 

I have had 4X4's with Posi (limited slip) which are not locking and they may have their limitations but they were at least a fairly real 4X4. Not a true locking 4X4 (which I have also owned but always hated getting out to lock them in when it was below zero outside back then)

I have been driving trucks since before Kennedy was President and this was the very first time in my life I ever had to be pulled out. I used to always be the one pulling others out ..... and to have 2 tires on dry pavement at the time burns me even more ...

I have no idea when they started using these open carriers in 4X4's but there is no way anything with these in it should ever be called a 4X4

Not arguing with you about true lockers here, just still steamed about the thing that is sitting in my garage ........ Already found complete Posi carriers for it though ..... Now I'm going to go read up on Powertrax Lock-Right products (Thanks Hahns5.2)

 

From the factory, I can guarantee it was not a true 4wd. I doubt it had a factory rear locker, as to my knowledge only Jeep Rubicons came stock with a rear locker, in fact it comes with a front and rear lockers. The only other front and rear locker (True 4x4) I can think of from factory is the Jeep Rubicon and the Dodge Power Wagon.

Like I said the open diffs have been around in all vehicles since early 1900's. OVER 100 YEARS!


A posi is a LSD not a locker, a posi/LSD will only give you 20/80 if your lucky, that video proves LSD/Posi's are worthless.

Better yet, this link has all the info you need.
http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/locking.html

 

Luckily I have that G80 in my Z71, so at least I have 3wd...lol

 

LSDs are not completely worthless, just not nearly as useful as a full locker. I've had a truck with a LSD (1995 Dakota) and a few trucks with open differentials, and trust me, the LSD was very useful in the snow compared to these open things.

I have an Auburn Gear LSD sitting in my garage that I still need to get installed in the rear end of my current ride...

 

I don't understand why the frt tires wouldn't get any power to them, try checking your fuses for the transfer case, or even your transfer case switch, even tho the led was lit up, maybe something wasn't working, never had an issue with my 2005, and just lately we got 2 feet of snow that I drive around in, some time when I get out of the carwash and put it in 4 high, I can smoke all 4 tires because of the wetness, but that's not to good when it starts to hook,