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Old Nov 9, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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One of my signal lights in the back went out. I got a light on the dash saying it's out. I replaced the bulb, nothing. Used a second bulb, just in case it was a bad one, still nothing. The two bulbs I tried were new in a sealed package. So I know it can't be the bulbs. The brake light on that side works. Turn signal light doesn't. What the heck?

Also, when I try to refuel, the fuel nozzle will cut off like it's full, even though it isn't. Literally, it will stop every half gallon or every 5 seconds. Sometimes it stops doing that, sometimes it starts up again. Makes it a PIA to refuel. It takes forever sometimes just to put in 10 gallons. A friend said it was the angle I'm putting the nozzle in, but I've tried moving it further in, or just barely putting it in, nothing seems to stop it. Any ideas what it could be?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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tail light issue is a bad forward control module, my dak is the same way, has been for years, something to do with rust in the fuse box, 600.00 to replace, fuel tank issue, my wifes nitro did that, come to find out, all that nasty crap they put in the gas ate away here check valve, filler neck and tank, had to be completely replaced, might want to look into that, she would start to pump gas, would shut off and come spilling out the neck onto the truck
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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tail light issue is a bad forward control module, my dak is the same way, has been for years, something to do with rust in the fuse box, 600.00 to replace, fuel tank issue, my wifes nitro did that, come to find out, all that nasty crap they put in the gas ate away here check valve, filler neck and tank, had to be completely replaced, might want to look into that, she would start to pump gas, would shut off and come spilling out the neck onto the truck
So basically replace the fuse box?

The gas doesn't spill out though. It just shuts off. Like it's supposed to do when it's full, even though it isn't.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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That can be the vent tube crimped / plugged / damaged.

It's about time to pull the bed and examine that filler / gas tank completely to see what that problem is.

While the bed's off, you can check the wiring to the back of the truck, and also the plug from the chassis wiring to the tail lamp, to see if there's a problem there.

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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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That can be the vent tube crimped / plugged / damaged.

It's about time to pull the bed and examine that filler / gas tank completely to see what that problem is.

While the bed's off, you can check the wiring to the back of the truck, and also the plug from the chassis wiring to the tail lamp, to see if there's a problem there.

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The brake light works, just not the signal light. If the wiring was damaged, wouldn't both not work?

Do I have to remove the bed to check the vent tube? That's something I really don't want to do.

To be honest, I'm tired of effing with this POS truck. I just put an engine in it, and a tranny last year. It's been nothing but trouble since I bought it. If I started listing the things I've replaced, it would take me half an hour to type them all. I'm thinking of dumping it anyway. I wouldn't feel right dumping it on someone else with things wrong with it. But I am tired of putting money into something that never seems to be fixed.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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The brake light works, just not the signal light. If the wiring was damaged, wouldn't both not work?

Do I have to remove the bed to check the vent tube? That's something I really don't want to do.

To be honest, I'm tired of effing with this POS truck. I just put an engine in it, and a tranny last year. It's been nothing but trouble since I bought it. If I started listing the things I've replaced, it would take me half an hour to type them all. I'm thinking of dumping it anyway. I wouldn't feel right dumping it on someone else with things wrong with it. But I am tired of putting money into something that never seems to be fixed.
That's your decision. Sometimes you just need to move on.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 12:08 AM
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If the brake light works, but not the signal, and it's the same bulb, it's time to look at the multi function switch (aka "turn signal switch") and possibly the hazard or 4-way flasher switch (check the wiring diagram!), since the brake lights go through the turn signals and the 4-way switch from the brake light switch to the rear.

If, however, it's a different lamp on your truck (dunno, it's all the same on my 1988!), then it could easily be bad wiring. It's a separate wire back to the back if a separate bulb.

Well, you could drop the gas tank. With the bed empty, my step son and I can lift the 8' longbed on my 1988 ... not the lightest thing I've lifted, but I'd rather lift it than, say, a Lexmark MX811 to put on its paper trays *grins* So it's up to you on that. Actually, if you're good enough, you MAY be able to do that without dropping the tank OR removing the bed. I'd just pull the bed to check the wiring also (again, if a separate bulb for turn signals and brakes.)

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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphP
If the brake light works, but not the signal, and it's the same bulb, it's time to look at the multi function switch (aka "turn signal switch") and possibly the hazard or 4-way flasher switch (check the wiring diagram!), since the brake lights go through the turn signals and the 4-way switch from the brake light switch to the rear.

If, however, it's a different lamp on your truck (dunno, it's all the same on my 1988!), then it could easily be bad wiring. It's a separate wire back to the back if a separate bulb.

Well, you could drop the gas tank. With the bed empty, my step son and I can lift the 8' longbed on my 1988 ... not the lightest thing I've lifted, but I'd rather lift it than, say, a Lexmark MX811 to put on its paper trays *grins* So it's up to you on that. Actually, if you're good enough, you MAY be able to do that without dropping the tank OR removing the bed. I'd just pull the bed to check the wiring also (again, if a separate bulb for turn signals and brakes.)

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It's two separate bulbs. With two different sets of wiring. Both sets of wire are bundled together.

Little story. Once several years ago, I flipped the lever down to start the turn signal. I don't remember if it was left or right. When I did, the hazard light indicator on the dash starts blinking. I was like WTH. I stopped, got out and looked, and every light on the back of the truck was blinking. Brake lights, signal lights, and the cargo lamp. Blinking in unison as if they were all hazard lights. I drove on home, and it's never done that again. I have had to replace that left signal light twice before, each time it's worked. But not this time. The one on the right side is still the original.

With winter coming on, I don't really feel like standing out in the cold and taking the bed off of it. I'm just sick of this thing. I've said it many times before, I will never buy another Dodge.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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Sigh. Once again an entire manufacturers line of vehicles condemned because if one bad apple.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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You really want me to go through the list of problems I've had with this thing? Seriously?

3 power steering pumps, 2 water pumps, power steering rack, a broken brake line which dumped all my brake fluid out leaving me with no brakes while going 50mph down a highway, a brake line that leaked, both brake cylinders in the rear leaked, 1 broke once again leaving me with no brakes , that's all 4 brakes going bad if you're keeping count, drive shaft replaced, 2 rear ends, last one didn't last a year, blower motor, 2 blower motor resistors, cd player quit working long ago, ball joints went out before 30K miles, sway bar bracket broke hitting a pot hole at about 35mph, when it rains i get water in the floorboard on the passenger side, the steering wheel has play in it that nobody can figure out why or fix, transmission replaced, radiator replaced, pinion screw in the rear end broke causing the rear end to lock up, the U joint to break, and the drive shaft to fall off, now a new engine. I know there's more things that have gone wrong with it, but I can't remember them all. I'm sure you've gotten the point by now.

Bad apple? Please. Would you buy another Dodge vehicle after what I've been through with this thing? And it STILL has problems with it? Only if you're a fool.
 
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