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to get the extra drop in the rear i removed the overload leaf from the bottom of the spring pack...i dont use it for towing anymore, so it didnt do any use for me....takes 15 minutes a side to remove...the ride in the rear is much better...no more skippin on the rail road tracks like it used to......i think im going with a flip kit in the rear though for a ram, it will be 4inches of drop....and i have 4wd...no deteriation of ride quality...feels beter than when stock...almost no body rool and more stable feeling...