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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Has anyone ever experienced this?
I finally had a chance to try the 4 wheel drive out this morning. Of course I have the AWD DAK. I put the truck into 4lo, and did what i needed to do, took it out of 4lo back to AWD. As i went to pull off i felt the rear end tightened up and as i pulled off it "dragged" the right rear tire for several feet, i put the truck in reverse to get out of the road and see what was wrong, the tire dragged again, and then a loud POP followed by the truck jumping. It then began to roll right.
Called the dealer and they said it "sounds like a normal thing related to the 4 wheel drive system automatically adjusting itself to the new settings"
It will be at the shop first thing monday morning, and i will force them to tell me that to my face after they see what it does. Anyone else ever dealt with something like this.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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No.. but I know my truck did something like that when I first got it when I put it into reverse and let out the clutch.... Im not sure if this is normal or not, I called the dealer and they said it was normal as well... I just had hard time beleiving that.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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does anyone have trouble with steering during or after using 4 wheel drive? heavy steering to make a 90 degree turn like in a parking lot? mine seems to rub and then sometimes the engine cuts off... am i supposed to drive it straight for a while before putting it back in 2wd?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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yes you are, my fullsize was a bitch when getting out of 4 w d. when i tried to turn a corner the frt end woould skip and the steering wheel would try to jerk out of my hand
 
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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When you turn your wheel and your tires turn, one of them starts spinning slower then the other one. Its simple geometry.. its the same size tire, but the inside one has to go in a smaller circle, so unless it slows down, the truck wont be able to turn properly. Thats what your differentials are for, they control that. When you put your truck in to 4 wheel drive, it locks the axles so that no longer happens. As a result, when you turn, the differentials don't make one tire turn slower then the other. After the pressure builds up, it is released with that skid and pop that you were saying. Its bad for your truck, thats why you should only use 4 wheel drive when you really need it

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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its either gonna rip up your axle's internals.. or the wheel actually may begin to hop when you turn in 4wd... a little tip.. in 4wd while moving, and you begin to turn and you hear a moan... straighten the wheels... cause thats your power steering pump over working itself fighting the axles.... in other words.... your opening up a can of hell
 
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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ORIGINAL: red9535

When you turn your wheel and your tires turn, one of them starts spinning slower then the other one. Its simple geometry.. its the same size tire, but the inside one has to go in a smaller circle, so unless it slows down, the truck wont be able to turn properly. Thats what your differentials are for, they control that. When you put your truck in to 4 wheel drive, it locks the axles so that no longer happens. As a result, when you turn, the differentials don't make one tire turn slower then the other. After the pressure builds up, it is released with that skid and pop that you were saying. Its bad for your truck, thats why you should only use 4 wheel drive when you really need it

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4x4 doesn't do anything to the axle differentials, they still work normally - the left wheels can still turn a different speed than the right wheels. In 4wd high or low (i.e. locked transfer case), the front and rear axles are forced to turn the same speed. This is fine in a straight line, but when you turn a corner the front axle wants to turn a little faster than the rear, and that's when things start binding up/steering gets difficult/etc. The solution is, as you said, only use 4wd when you need it... i.e. not on dry pavement.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Fyreman252,
Take the truck into the dealer and ask that they take a look. A loud pop and wheel dragging DEFINATELY indicates a potential problem. The clutch mechanism for the axles should make NO noticeable noise. Read the other posts carefully. Tire scrub is pretty prevalent when the axles are locked synchronously via the xfer and a sharp turn is attempted. You should NOT normally lock into four lo on any hard stable surface. You CAN cause damage to the axles as yes when the front wheels are turned they ;due to the diameter of the tires, are turning at different speeds....just like the other guys stated. Get it looket at. It won't cost you but $100.00 or less in labor.....Just a thought.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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This thread was very informative. Thanks guys.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ptschett
4x4 doesn't do anything to the axle differentials, they still work normally - the left wheels can still turn a different speed than the right wheels. In 4wd high or low (i.e. locked transfer case), the front and rear axles are forced to turn the same speed. This is fine in a straight line, but when you turn a corner the front axle wants to turn a little faster than the rear, and that's when things start binding up/steering gets difficult/etc. The solution is, as you said, only use 4wd when you need it... i.e. not on dry pavement.
Exactly. The only thing that would "lock the axles" would be the differentials...if they were lockers. Even LSD and lunchbox locking diffs will allow variable wheel speed when turning a corner (not under engine load).

On a side note, the only problem I have had with selecting 4LO was when it didn't disengage 4LO. This has only happened to me once, and I use my 4HI and 4LO fairly often. The only solution to get it out of 4LO was to disconnect the battery and reconnect. Problem solved.
 

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