So she was thinking old tech when driving a new tech car :-)

I had to lock my dad's MB without the key and I had to get in the car via the rear door, hit the all-lock button on the front door, crawl back out the back door and then close the back door. You can defeat anything, but you have to try hard...

 

I read this several times, but just to make sure I understand:

This issue here was that the vehicle was running?

If the vehicle is not running, it becomes difficult to lock the fob inside the vehicle because the doors will unlock, and the horn chirp. (unless you are persistent and repeat the lock operation a few times)

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I think I know what happened. Vehicle remote started, then KEY PLACED IN DIAPER BAG. Walk to car with diaper bag, open car, put diaper bag in BACK seat while vehicle is still under REMOTE START operation. Manually lock door. The car is not 'started' because it is not in the RUN position so the car isn't even looking for the fob inside the vehicle; this allows the vehicle to lock. Close door. You are locked out. Remote start runs for 10 minutes and shuts off. Because the key is inside the vehicle and not outside in proximity of the front doors, the passive entry system will not work either.

What do you think of this evaluation?

 

Fever,

I think the lesson from the story is do not manually lock the doors with your key/FOB inside the vehicle as you will not be able to get back in without another key/FOB. The system will not allow the locked door to be opened with the passive entry system if FOB is inside of vehicle no matter if running or not.

 

This is what I was getting at. You have a high tech system that will protect you from locking the keys in the car. But if you use low tech methods (i.e. pushing the metal lock pin down) you are overriding the high tech system and will lose the protection that system gives you.

 

Easy mistake to make especially when you get used to not having to put a key in the ignition. I still always make sure the FOB is in my pocket. I remind the wife all the to keep it on her person and not in her bag

 

Yeah, this new feature take a bit of time to get used to. I almost crashed a car into the wall once because I pushed the button to shut off the car, but it didn't, because it is in DRIVE. I didn't realize it, jump out of the car, and it car started rolling forward...

Push start combined with the stupid 8-spd trans shifter in the Charger/300...

 

My point was that it is much easier to lock a fob in the car if engine is running. (no warning)

I did a test:

Engine not running --> key fob inside, manually locked the doors, shut the door, then doors immediately unlocked, and the horn chirped 3 times

Engine running --> key fob inside, manually locked the doors, shut the door, no warning . . . the keys were now locked inside. . . I had to get the 2nd set to open the doors


It makes sense what was mentioned several times above, the system works well, assuming the key is on your body somewhere. If anyone deviates from that, they better know the rules. : )

 

Except that chicks don't always have pockets -- that's why they have purses. If she needs to lock her purse in the car (not a great idea under the best of circumstances) then she has to take the key out.

The whole idea is to use the technology. You only lock the car with the key fob, or the button on the exterior door handle. That way you can't get into trouble. Even in the old days, if you put your purse in the car and pushed the lock pin down, you still just locked your keys in the car. So it's not the new system that caused the issue, it's not using what you have to prevent that. It's a new paradym that has benefits. You just have to get used to that new paradym.

 

In my experience, it's been quite some time since you could turn a car off while the transmission was still in Drive. For years, the cars I've driven just wouldn't let that happen. Maybe in the 60s you could do that, but not recently.