Locked keys (FOB) in the car....didn't think it was possible
If you put your keys in the car and lock the door with the lock button on the armrest, the locks will reopen when you close the door.
If you put your keys in the car and lock the door with the lock pin, you have just locked your keys in the car.
If you put your keys in the car, close the door and try to lock the door with the button on the door handle, the doors simply won't lock.
In summary again, the technology is very smart if you use it. If you do something oldfashion/dumb, you can get burned.
And have you tried the 8-spd trans 2012 Charger yet? that shifter is weird. I didn't realize it was in DRIVE, and i was in a hurry. I know it is my fault, but o well...
and another thing about this keyless system is if you want to shut off the car while it is moving, you hold the button for 3 second. used in situation like "cough" Toyota recall...
Last edited by steak59; Feb 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM.
More tests:
Engine not running --> key fob inside, all doors are locked except the drivers, push down the lock pin, shut the door, - > then doors immediately unlocked, and the horn chirped 3 times
Engine not running --> key fob inside, all doors unlocked, climb around the seats, push all 4 door pins down, shut the driver door, -> no unlock or chirping. It appears at that point the fob is locked in the vehicle, BUT walk around back, and the liftgate opens!
I did not even try to think of a way to keep that locked also. . . . it would be very difficult to 'accidently' lock fob inside a non-running vehicle.
I think one way they could solve some of these issues that occur when the engine is running is to tie it to the drivers seatbelt.
Maybe they should not use the "engine is running algorithm" until the drivers seatbelt is used?
Maybe they should not use the "engine is running algorithm" until the drivers seatbelt is used?
Happy,
While I certainly appreciate trying to make a perfect system, I am not sure it exists. I think what people are missing here is that the system is designed to keep people out if the vehicle is running and the FOB is in it. If your FOB is in the car and the car is running the system assumes you are in it. As far as the seatbelt goes, if I am sitting in my vehicle with my seatbelt off and the engine running I do not want just anyone to be able to come up and open the door. Having to manually lock your door(s) while the car is running while leaving the FOB in it is about as safegarded as it can get against locking the FOB inside.
Then maybe the issue is how the doors were locked? Maybe the outside button should not work anymore once the engine is on? The only way to lock the car is from the inside once the engine is on? And if the drivers door is open and locked by whatever means, and it's closed when the engine is running, then it auto unlocks?
Or maybe not use the driver's seatbelt itself but instead just some weight sensor to detect somebody is sitting in the seat?
I guess the problem is trying to find a balance with protecting occupants sitting in a car with their seatbelt off and the engine running and letting somebody start the engine by whatever means but not be in the car and lock it while they go back inside.
I agree, maybe a perfect system doesn't exist.
Or maybe not use the driver's seatbelt itself but instead just some weight sensor to detect somebody is sitting in the seat?
I guess the problem is trying to find a balance with protecting occupants sitting in a car with their seatbelt off and the engine running and letting somebody start the engine by whatever means but not be in the car and lock it while they go back inside.
I agree, maybe a perfect system doesn't exist.
Well, Ford has "pass code" key pad on the driver's door most of their upper trim vehicle for years. and it works great. And I believe you can have the dealer change the password upon request.
It would be nice if other manufacturer offers this feature on their keyless models. A lot of ladies like to leave their keys in their hand bags.
GM has ON-Star as anti-lock out, or dial the pass word to you car with a smart phone, but requires subscription fee.
It would be nice if other manufacturer offers this feature on their keyless models. A lot of ladies like to leave their keys in their hand bags.
GM has ON-Star as anti-lock out, or dial the pass word to you car with a smart phone, but requires subscription fee.
deedub,
This happened to me the first time I used the remote start (BTW, when my D was in my possession for only 2 weeks!!)
Thought it would be cool to show off the remote start to the family while walking to the car at an amusement park:
I stood there in 95 degree heat while the truck ran in the parking lot. It happens to the best of them.
This happened to me the first time I used the remote start (BTW, when my D was in my possession for only 2 weeks!!)
Thought it would be cool to show off the remote start to the family while walking to the car at an amusement park:
- Pressed the remote start 30 feet from the truck.
- Then opened the rear hatch remotely.
- Put the key fob in the pool bag.
- Put the pool bag in the back of the truck.
- Closed the hatch using the button using the button inside the rear hatch.
- Walla! Key fob now locked in the truck with the engine running. Brilliant!!
I stood there in 95 degree heat while the truck ran in the parking lot. It happens to the best of them.




