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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Saleen190
So per their dyno video it's making 410TQ so there should be plenty left on the table there for it
The ripp specs are wheel torque and the transmission is rated at crank torque.

My guess is the ripp supercharger is very close to the max torque allowance for the Durango.

Next question is how close to the max torque allowance for the transfer case (for all those with awd)

Sounds like there haven't been any troubles... As long as you keep the neutral drops to a minimum lmao
 
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by goodB0Y
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I believe the transmission might different in the srt vehicles than in our durango's... Zf 8hp70 in all 5.7 hemi's and the zf 8hp90 in srt models. The last two numbers represent the max torque allowance... 70 model is 700nm and the 90 is 900nm

That puts the max torque rating at 516 foot pounds of torque for our durango's.

As per Wikipedia: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
The 8HP90 is only in the Hellcats. the SRT has the 8HP70
 
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ufokillerz
The 8HP90 is only in the Hellcats. the SRT has the 8HP70
Good info... Wasn't really clear to me on Wikipedia...
 
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by goodB0Y
The ripp specs are wheel torque and the transmission is rated at crank torque.

My guess is the ripp supercharger is very close to the max torque allowance for the Durango.

Next question is how close to the max torque allowance for the transfer case (for all those with awd)

Sounds like there haven't been any troubles... As long as you keep the neutral drops to a minimum lmao
Oh yeah, good point.

Soooo, who's gonna travel this road? I want one bad but that's alot of coin. wonder if we could work out a group buy an get a better deal if we could secure 5 units?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Depends on whether they want to make a smaller profit margin on 5 units, or just want to go for a home run on 2. A lot of manufacturers don't realize that selling more and word of mouth will get them more sales!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Good way to ruin a perfectly good vehicle. I've been here guys. The extra power is great, awesome even. However, NO other part of this vehicle was made to support the extra power. You WILL have issues from here on out. They may not surface right away, but they will surface. Your fuel system, brakes, transmission, alternator, a/c compressor, power steering, u-joints, AWD system (if you have AWD), various sensors, etc were not made to handle this kind of power. Chasing the next weakest link gets old QUICK. If you don't believe me, take a look on-line for supercharged vehicles for sale. There are a lot out there and most will claim to have 60K+ into a vehicle they are selling for 30. There is a reason. Fixing them gets friggin old. OK, I said it. Now you can go ahead and do it anyways. Good luck!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinK.
A lot of manufacturers don't realize that selling more and word of mouth will get them more sales!

I disagree. Most manufacturers would love to sell anything they can make a profit on. Making more of something doesn't always translate into more profits via economy of scale.
In this instance, the limiting factor is demand, not supply. It appears all of the stuff used on this SC were off-the-shelf stuff that RIPP modified and fab'd into the system they wanted. And as this is the first one they've done for the DD their labor expenses were probably pretty high as they had to experiment a little bit to get things just right. Thus, at $7K I suspect their profit wasn't equal to their normal profit margins for this type of project.
Even if they can keep the price at $7K how much demand is out there? Even in a kit, how many authorized RIPP dealers would have the expertise to install it. (As a DIY project I'd think RIPP would discourage that, considering the complexity.) Even then, how many suitable DDs are within a reasonable distance of those dealers that it would make it worthwhile to train staff to do the install. If you have to send an employee (travel, meals, lodging, salary etc.) to training at RIPP HQ (wherever that is) what are your chances of making your money back selling and installing the kit, much less a profit? How many installs would you have to do each year to be in the black?
I'm certainly NOT knocking RIPP or anyone else for doing these projects; it's probably as much fun for them as it is for the vehicle owner. But this is a pricey and exacting upgrade that sounds great until you price it out. In the mean time, I guess we'll have to wait until JC Whitney comes out with one of their own. :-)
p.s. re-read "salrt" above and pay attention.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Orin500XL
I guess we'll have to wait until JC Whitney comes out with one of their own. :-)
Yes, they can call theirs R.I.P.

Marty
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 07:35 AM
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Here's an alternative to those concerned with the warranty. Dodge will be doing an in house supercharger install. I have inquired about it here in Orlando and will have more information after the first of the year. This will include a complete factory warranty.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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I've had my supercharged D for two years with zero issues. Depends on how you drive it. I drive it like a seven seater soccer carpool carrier with 500 hp. If you go to the track and or abuse it all day, you're going to have problems with or without a blower. I recommend the Magnacharger set up for anyone interested in more power. I went with the low boost version, and feel confident the Hemi us up to it. I have a Tesla Model X on order, so the D will be for sale in a year or so. I would feel confident that whoever buys it will have a fantastic, one of a kind SUV.
 
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