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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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I'm going to give it until 10000 km's... And see how it is then. I agree valve seals would seem like the logical thing... But they would more than likely smoke all the time (or at every start up) and mine doesn't... It's very intermittent.

I have a feeling it might have excessive blow by... Just by looking into the old intake and seeing the amount of oil that was in there. And I also noticed some oil in the air box coming from another hose connected to the intake.

I also think the intake and pcv system design may be a problem... But again that's just a gut feeling.

I'm willing to add a catch can... And definitely synthetic oil... But at this point it's a wait and see...
 
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Cool Smoke on start up, ongoing

Goodboy,


My 2014 R/T did the same thing, except my blue cloud engulfed my suv.
Had 1400 miles on it, took it back to the dealer, they replaced all the valves, took a week. When I got it back and started it the next morning, smoke again, back to dealer and they put 2 new heads on it. That was 3000 miles ago, seems to not engulf in blue smoke however just started noticing too much gray smoke, like yours does after the blue smoke leaves.
Have to go in for the recall and I will inquire again.
I really liked this suv, love the nav system! And of course, the hemi. I just am not trusting this to take on long trips by myself.
I've had this 8 months and am trying to hold out for a year so I don't lose too much when I trade it.
Never had a Mopar that did this. Husband has had 3 Challengers, with the hemi motors, and no issues at all with any. Why the suv's & trucks?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 11:38 PM
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My 2014 R/T did the same thing, except my blue cloud engulfed my suv.
Had 1400 miles on it, took it back to the dealer, they replaced all the valves, took a week. When I got it back and started it the next morning, smoke again, back to dealer and they put 2 new heads on it. That was 3000 miles ago, seems to not engulf in blue smoke however just started noticing too much gray smoke, like yours does after the blue smoke leaves.
Have to go in for the recall and I will inquire again.
I really liked this suv, love the nav system! And of course, the hemi. I just am not trusting this to take on long trips by myself.
I've had this 8 months and am trying to hold out for a year so I don't lose too much when I trade it.
Never had a Mopar that did this. Husband has had 3 Challengers, with the hemi motors, and no issues at all with any. Why the suv's & trucks?
Your lucky... Chrysler Canada just informed me that there is no problem with my durango... Looks like they aren't going to fix it after all but I'm waiting for confirmation.

Some grey smoke is normal IMHO... But definitely have ur dealer check it out

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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Grey White Smoke is water vapor so unless you are losing coolant that is just condensation when exhaust gases are passing thru Cold pipes and condensing
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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Do you have Dodge Customer Care in Canada? Does Canada have a version of the Lemon Law? Sorry, I don't know a thing about Canada consumer laws. When my R/T started with this issue I immediately opened a case with Customer Care. Svc Mgr told me that they called him and he has to keep them inform as to what he was doing.
If you wanted to trade it in, once a any dealer started it, they would tell you to keep it. They don't want the headache.
I hope it gets resolved for you.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherden
Do you have Dodge Customer Care in Canada? Does Canada have a version of the Lemon Law? Sorry, I don't know a thing about Canada consumer laws. When my R/T started with this issue I immediately opened a case with Customer Care. Svc Mgr told me that they called him and he has to keep them inform as to what he was doing.
If you wanted to trade it in, once a any dealer started it, they would tell you to keep it. They don't want the headache.
I hope it gets resolved for you.
I did speak to customer care here in Canada. She informed me that her office spoke to my service manager and that there was no defect found with my durango. I then spoke to my service manager and he agreed that my durango should not be doing this and that he informed customer care about the defect and attempted repair. He then said again he would suggest to wait and see if it clears up and thought that it "should" be fixed under warranty . So I'm not sure why Chrysler Canada would say there isn't a defect... I'm waiting for a response back from them to clarify the discrepancy between me, my service manager and my salesman's opinion that there is a defect and there's that there is no defect. They even authorized and attempted a repair for the defect... But it didn't fix it... I have a feeling that Chrysler Canada just doesn't want to fix it. The email response was very disappointing and did nothing to reassure me that they will do anything for me... This is all very stressful for our family right now with Christmas around the corner...

Your right nobody is going to buy this thing the way it is... And we financed it so we're stuck with a 700 dollar a month payment...

We don't have a lemon law like the states... But we do have something similar. I'm looking into it right now.

Thanxs... I hope things get settled soon to...
 

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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Chrysler here in the States had the District Manger of the Washington D.C Region call me yesterday in response to my certified letter and at first she had no clue to what the smoking issue was...so she say's. After going over what it has been doing since she did not have any paperwork for my case, she said she would be calling me back on Monday to inform me what she had found out.

Not even 15 minutes later the phone rings with her on the other end saying she talked to an engenier from Chrysler and he informed her the dip sticks on the Durangos were not the correct length and need to be replaced. She said the blue smoke was from the people changing the oil, adding too much oil and not knowing it and when you park the vehicles on an incline they will leak-out a little oil and cause it to burn off.

When I asked her why she did not have my paperwork or anything related to my case in front of her too see that is the first excuse and thing Chrysler came-up with for my vehicle BEFORE the dealership was informed the vehicles needed to have a bigger oil pan then the PCM flash. Her attitude totally change then and said that the vehicle is working as designed and wanted to know what I wanted her to do. I told her I wanted them to buy the vehicle back plus all the items I put into the vehicle plus pay for the mileage and cost of depreciation then I will turn the truck back over too them and go get another vehicle. I further said this is what would be the outcome of a Lemon Lawsuit, and it would save lawyers fees and such. She laughed and said again, the vehicle is working as designed and there is nothing she can do for me.

I went that evening to a Lemon Lawyer and he wants 5K to go after them.....I have a case here in my State according to our Lemon Law, but never thought I would need to pay upfront for a lawyer to go after them. I had a Chevy I did a Lemon Law on about 9 years ago and the lawyer waited to get paid at settlement. Granted it was in another State, I would think they would all work this way.

He also said that if there are a numerous amounts of Durango owners with the 3rd generation body style and 5.7 Hemi motors doing this same blue smoking issue, we can try to find an attorney to pick-up a possible class-action lawsuit.

Would anyone be interested in getting in on an possibility of a class-action lawsuit?

I do not have the 5K to go after them so if others want to try as a group, I will be willing to try and find a GOOD not scamming Lawyer to fight the machine.

Goes to show how these big corporations are getting away with things. People cannot afford to fight them over these things and they know it!

Now, I have a truck with what my cousin and I coined as the "Hemi Smoke". It is a new standard feature for the 5.7 Hemi's.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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Man.... This is ridiculous...

At no point in the history of the automotive industry has blue smoke from the exhaust been a sign of the normal operation of a new vehicle... It has been and always will be a sign of a defect. Add to that any person, even people with little to no knowledge of how a gasoline engine works, would want to invest there money into a car or truck that has this condition.

I could understand if the vehicles had significant mileage... But mine has been like this from day one.

For those of you who don't have this problem consider yourselves lucky... And those who have had repairs done to remedy it... Heads, new engines ect... You are even luckier. I Just want my truck fixed.

I was envious of the US lemon laws until I heard you have to have a lawyer and pay for it... Like everything up here in Canada our lemon law is free... But it's not a court case but an adjudicator that makes the decision.

Still... Really just want to drive and enjoy our durango and have it fixed.

So sad

I can't understand how a company can treat there customers this way...
 
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Old Dec 7, 2014 | 01:27 AM
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Default my story 5.7 hemi 2013 crew..5000 miles 97 hours on engine

took a long trip over thanksgiving to big sur 350 miles one way everything ran fine drove lots of hills and hairpin curves mountains up and down went to start the d the next mourning large cloud of light grey are white smoke from the rear cleared after a minuet didn't repeat itself again drove home checked it the next mourning both tail pipes had a moist black soot on the inside also now smell fumes on cold start up like the fuel mixture is to rich ..drove it about 120 miles today tops was 20 mpg average about 19 on congested freeways..don't think it was overfilled on the oil going to keep an eye on it and will let the dealer know at my next oil change..just checked my oil level and tail pipes after my 130 mile round trip today pipes were pretty clean oil level did not drop any ..my wifes 2006 magnum rt the tail pipes are spotless inside I have never cleaned them in 8 years..BTW...GLAD I GOT THE EXTENDED WARRANTY
 

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Old Dec 7, 2014 | 04:46 AM
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This was two days ago... I would say this is probably on the lesser side of what it usually smokes . And it seems to be getting worse... As in it does it every start now....
 

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