Thanks for the review DD. I'm looking at getting a set next year, or maybe sooner. I really don't like these OEM Wranglers. In the summers, I only drive the Ram when it's wet out (otherwise I'm on the motorcycle) or if I'm hauling something. In the winter, it's usually wet in some form.

joe

 

Wet roads and Wrangler HP's = Nightmare!!!

Terrible, terrible tire for any weather conditions. Unless the truck is driving in a straight pattern on constant highways on dry pavement, that's when i would reccomend those tires...lmao
I cannot understand how they can get so much money for those tires. They are super soft on turns, sidewalls are soft. They are basically a car tire mounted on a Truck! Chrysler uses them because they give the truck a softer ride quality and they have less rolling resistance for a cheater way to get "better" gas mileage.

Go check out the reviews from those tires on TireRack and they rank something terrible like 70 out of 80 or so tires. Ofcourse 1 being the best and 80 being the worst.

I bought mine from Disconttiredirect.com for $166each shipped.

 

Yeah, I agree. I see you have them in the stock size. Do you have a leveling kit on your ride? I just put the HBS 2.5" left on mine, and I'm not sure I want to keep the stock size, although I think they look fine. The LTZ's look more aggressive anyway, and should look better than the OEM's, although I'm more concerned with their performance.

joe

 

No leveling kit. I like the factory offset stance.

 

here In Syracuse NY if you aint got 4x4 ur gonna be spinning alot. any rear wheel drive trucks have issues with traction. I have the stock good year HP's and I have to use 4 wheel almost every day or i would be stuck turning corners. slowing down just enough to make the corner the tires dont wanna keep connected to the ground. also it would take me almost a mile to get up to the speed limit... the truck is spin happy. I LUV IT!

I had a 250 also and I had same issues as i do now. I had 600lbs in the bed 4 plowing. I had snow tires then too. mastercraft coursers.. nice tire but in the lake effect we get its heavy and slushy most of the time. just need to drive slow.

 

I live in Auburn, about 20 mins from Syracuse. Just south of the real lake-effect pounding that the Lake Ontario towns get. Very few trucks around here are 4x2, but I find the only advantage is starting from a stop on a hill. Once the rears hook up, my 4x2 has no problems. 300# of sand in the bed, a few pounds of air out of the rear tires, and a light foot on the gas and clutch will get by. I also swapped out the garbage Goodyear SR-A's for some bigger Coopers. Excellent tire for the price.

That being said, 4x4 is a nice backup...my buddies' 4x4 Hemi is a beast in the snow. If you really want to get around in Central NY winters, you need something with 2 skis, a paddle track and a 2 stroke motor

 

Tell that to all the 4x4 drivers I went by stuck or flipped over in ditches while driving my '84 Camaro EVERY winter for 10 Winters on the back roads. LOL

I never said better though... It's just safer to be in 2wd in certian road conditions. I will have to agree that when 1st starting out having a 4x4 is nice.

Also in slushy wet snow a 4x4 would be better for sure as 2wds are terrible in wet snow.

 

Thanks for the review Dirty. I planned on getting these tires within the next 2 weeks anyway, but you just made my decision even more firm. Especially since I have a 2wd and will be moving to Denver soon! Thanks man.

 

i appreciate the cooper review seeing that i want to get a set before next winter and this definatly confirms my choice. I did alot of 4x4 driving in the snow this past weekend as well with the stock goodyears and they werent too bad, its funny how the hp's are worse in the rain then in the snow. but after using 4x4 for the first time in a while i forgot how mich i love it!

 

That's because those drivers don't know how to drive...4x4 or not. That's half the issue, some of these idiots get in their 4x4 and think they can go anywhere or do anything. Regardless of your vehicles capabilities, you always need be aware and drive as the conditions warrant.

BTW, those tires look sweet, too bad they don't make them in 17", or I might have gotten them.