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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Has any seen this product before, it looks interesting but I'm doubtful. If anybody has any experience with this I would like to know about it. Thanks is advance.

http://www.dodgeramaccessories.com/A...3-4+Inch/4004/
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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I've seen something like this floating around before and people debunked it but I forget why. But I have learned that in our trucks the computers adjust A/F Ratio to keep it close to stock so no matter what kind of CAI you run you aren't going to really gain anything because the computer will just adjust. At least on a mostly stock engine, now on a engine with heavy mods a CAI would be beneficial but I'm still skeptical about that turbine
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 02:15 PM
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Meh, looks like one more thing to get caked up with crap or break.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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This looks to be a free wheeling turbine blade they stuck in the intake to agitate the airflow, I guess to help more evenly mix the air fuel mixture to give a more complete burn.

That is horsecrap. Especially on modern fuel injected engines. The air restriction of the device its self far outweighs any potential gains it may contribute.


If it's one of those electric superchargers you find teenagers slapping into their intakes, then it is also utter bullcrap. Those electric fans are not capable of generating any measurable boost. They whine, howl, go whooooooooooshhhhh, and move a lot of air, yes. But airflow != boost.

Essentially, don't put jack s**t in your intake unless it's a supercharger or turbo charger.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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More snake oil. The Tornado is cheaper.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Prismatic
This looks to be a free wheeling turbine blade they stuck in the intake to agitate the airflow, I guess to help more evenly mix the air fuel mixture to give a more complete burn.

That is horsecrap. Especially on modern fuel injected engines. The air restriction of the device its self far outweighs any potential gains it may contribute.


If it's one of those electric superchargers you find teenagers slapping into their intakes, then it is also utter bullcrap. Those electric fans are not capable of generating any measurable boost. They whine, howl, go whooooooooooshhhhh, and move a lot of air, yes. But airflow != boost.

Essentially, don't put jack s**t in your intake unless it's a supercharger or turbo charger.
It's kinda a long video, but watch this episode of roadkill.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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Here is the problem. That 1978 Mazda has a carburetor. Where is the fuel introduced in that car? Yes RIGHT at the carb.

Throttle spacers and these tornado type devices could have made a difference in the early days of throttle bodies when systems used single point fuel injection and fuel was introduced AT the throttle body directly into the intake manifold.

Now, how in the hell can ANY of these devices work on a modern fuel delivery system where fuel is introduced via a fuel rail directly into each individual combustion chamber LONG after any air turbulence will have ceased?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HammerZ71
Here is the problem. That 1978 Mazda has a carburetor. Where is the fuel introduced in that car? Yes RIGHT at the carb.

Throttle spacers and these tornado type devices could have made a difference in the early days of throttle bodies when systems used single point fuel injection and fuel was introduced AT the throttle body directly into the intake manifold.

Now, how in the hell can ANY of these devices work on a modern fuel delivery system where fuel is introduced via a fuel rail directly into each individual combustion chamber LONG after any air turbulence will have ceased?
MONZA. Not Mazda.


But I see your point, never actually thought about that before. Interesting video, eh?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
MONZA. Not Mazda.


But I see your point, never actually thought about that before. Interesting video, eh?
LOL, stupid phone spell checker...

But yeah I just can't see ANY way ANY of those devices can work on a multi point FI system.

Video was VERY cool though...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Didn't evn open the link seeing as that's clearly a sales gimmick.
I am wondering about one other thing, though, why doesn't anyone put a small fan in front of the cai? That wouldn't feed it cool air, obviously, but I would assume cool it down a good notch?
 
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