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question on oil

Old Apr 9, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Djr04,
MDS seems to be working fine.
But I will switch to the 5w20
Thanks for the heads up
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: djr04

and yes, from all the studies I've seen, fram doesn't filter even close to as well as wix/napa gold. I use mobil 1 filters myself, they work well.
This brings up a question: Please don't take any offense, but how do you KNOW your filter works well? My last car was a '97 Dodge Avenger ES, and I used Mobil 1 synthetic oil and FRAM (teflon one) filters religiously. The car purred from the day I bought it to the day I traded it in. I mean, at 140k miles, it started up and ran like it had 30k miles on it. Would it have run just as well on conventional oil, and cheaper filters? Maybe it's the fact that Imaintained it much better than most people would, and never missed an oil change?

I'm coming up on an oil change on my Ram, 12k miles, and still am not positive what combo to use. I've run Mobil 1 synthetic since 3k miles, and have used both the Mopar filter and the Fram PH8 (someone here said it is bigger so it would filter more efficiently). Do Mopar filters work best because Dodge says so, or are they just trying to make money? My boss and I had this discussion, and he just said "the manufacturer recommends what will work best with their design". This goes against all of my beliefs, but makes SO MUCH SENSE!

I'd love to hear your educated advice on this subject, as most of us would. I put my reputation on the line every day as an Aircraft Technician, so I tend to analyze things pretty deeply.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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My decision in regards to a "good" filter is based on filtration tests, disassembly inspections, and reports of failure. To be fair, there's tons of people out there who have run frams from day one and had vehicles run forever. I recommend every one that reads this to look for research on filters themselves. Some of the better tests include filtration (in microns), pleat size and surface area, drain back valve quality and end cap quality (some are cardboard). I know I've had a couple frams bulged from not being able to handle the pressure, but that may be isolated to the engine it was attached to. Mopar seems to vary it's filter manufacturer from year to year, it was acdelco at one time, and it has been (still is?) fram.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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yah i'm sold on Mobil 1...i've used it every vehicle i have and havent had the slightest bit of a problem with any of them and very rarely use a fram filter unless they dont have a wix or i cant get a mopar (altho the are still frams i believe)....so i tend to try anduse Wix....Wix seems to be working really good for me on all my other vehicles
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Hey guys. I have an 04 ram 2500 mostly stock. Its time to change all the drive train fluids. Is it OK to use 75-90w synthetic in my nv5600 trans, (like my rearends) instead of the famous -Morpar Tranmission Fluid-, that they won't give any info on?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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I've heard that mopar trannies don't like fluid without the atf+4, but this is all from dodge dealership techs, so it may be mopar's rule (to sell their product). It also may be truth as well, so I'd be sure to look into that. I would hate for you to have your tranny puke because of a missing additive. As far as diff fluid, I believe as long as it's the right weight and you include the lsd additive if you have an lsd you are good to go.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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if it was me, i'd just use the trans fluid in the t-case...better to be on the safe side....

as for the trans service, you HAVE to use ATF+4, dont try usin the Dexron III and then puttin in the additive to "make it" like atf+4 cause it's not...atf+4 may be expensive but it's what works the best with the product, so just use it.....it also states in the service manual:[align=left]Mopart ATF +4, Automatic Transmission Fluid is[/align][align=left]the recommended fluid for DaimlerChrysler automatic[/align][align=left]transmissions.[/align][align=left]Dexron II fluid IS NOT recommended. Clutch[/align][align=left]chatter can result from the use of improper[/align]fluid.

so like i said, i'd just use the mopar stuff and call it good

cancel that, i forgot you have the manual trans...here's what it says:
NOTE: DaimlerChrysler recommends using Mopar
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lubricants or lubricants of equal quality.
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NV3500 - MoparManual Transmission Lubricant
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NV4500 - MoparSynthetic 75W85 Manual
Transmission Lubricant

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NV5600 - MoparManual Transmission Lubricant

so i guess take it for what you will
 
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